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02-12-2024 , 05:50 PM

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Would you vote for anyone in the republican party over Biden for POTUS?

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02-12-2024 , 05:53 PM

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Would you vote for anyone in the republican party over Biden for POTUS?

He would vote for a dead Biden before voting GOP

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02-12-2024 , 06:03 PM

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He would vote for a dead Biden before voting GOP

If that was allowed it would be rational to do so for him, given the stakes

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02-12-2024 , 06:06 PM

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Bigger was a republican before Trump, maybe still is so bad example

I was more curious about slighted

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02-12-2024 , 06:26 PM

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Another republican presidential term right now means a republican SCOTUS for 30+, years.

I would be surprised if the POTUS during the next term has the opportunity to appoint more than one justice to the SCOTUS. And it might be zero if a Democrat wins and if you believe that Thomas will never retire while a Democrat is in office.

I am virtually certain that Thomas will retire if a Republican wins the WH.

Even so, you are correct that SCOTUS appointments will be a motivating factor for voters in both parties. That's the inevitable consequence of the Republican dog catching the car.

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02-12-2024 , 07:05 PM

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Would you vote for anyone in the republican party over Biden for POTUS?

Not the current republican party. If it ever reverts back to some sort of sanity again, maybe.

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02-12-2024 , 07:27 PM

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Not the current republican party. If it ever reverts back to some sort of sanity again, maybe.

So not even Romney over Biden?

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02-12-2024 , 07:29 PM

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You would have to shoot Thomas repeatedly with silver bullets and be lucky, to have him retire under any president imho

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02-12-2024 , 08:05 PM

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You would have to shoot Thomas repeatedly with silver bullets and be lucky, to have him retire under any president imho

I strongly disagree.

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02-12-2024 , 08:12 PM

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I strongly disagree.

You think he would do like Kennedy? Any hint why you think that's the case?

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02-12-2024 , 09:48 PM

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The best way to get Thomas out of SCOTUS is to teach him how to cash out post retirement. He seems to really chafe under ethics rules, as thin as they are, as is.

You tell him how to be rich after he just frees himself of the shackles of the mores/norms of SCOTUS, he’s gonna get a plasma cutter to get himself out of SCOTUS.

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02-12-2024 , 10:28 PM

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Harris says she is ready to serve and it would be a historic presidency with the first Black woman in office.

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Vice President Kamala Harris in a recent interview said she was "ready to serve" as president amid voter concerns about President Joe Biden' age

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"I am ready to serve. There's no question about that," Harris told The Journal.

The vice president then told the newspaper that people who've observed her job performance are "fully aware of my capacity to lead."

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Even before winning the 2020 election, Biden said that Harris would be a full partner in the White House, which many saw as the veteran Washington figure setting up Harris as the future of the Democratic Party — and as his successor in the 2028 presidential election.

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Harris throughout her vice presidency has remained relatively popular with Black voters and young voters, two critical groups whose turnout will be critical if Biden is to remain in the White House past January 2025.

https://www.businessinsider.com/kama...ats-2024-2?amp

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02-12-2024 , 10:59 PM

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You think he would do like Kennedy? Any hint why you think that's the case?

He is the oldest justice. I don't think he enjoys being on the court as much as some people. I don't think he likes the ethics rules. I don't think he cares about the reputation of the court or what happens on the court after he is off it.

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02-13-2024 , 01:38 AM

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If it was nikki haley instead of trump, are you still definitely voting Biden?

easily yes.

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Would you vote for anyone in the republican party over Biden for POTUS?

there is no one i know of in the republican party that i would consider as a candidate for president. maaayyybe Hogan? but the republicans don't like him because he's somewhat a normal person. he still sucks though compared to virtually any democrat on pretty much every issue. a democrat in the potus seat is required to keep the crazy at bay in the likely case the senate goes Red. although i think the house may return blue.

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02-13-2024 , 11:15 AM

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So not even Romney over Biden?

No republicans will get my vote until they (the party) decide not to be bat-**** crazy sycophants. I realize Romney is a grain of sanity on a beach of insanity but still, no.

fyi - I voted for Romney in 2012.

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02-13-2024 , 11:17 AM

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So do you plan to vote for Biden or whomever the dem candidate will be, or third party, or abstain?

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02-13-2024 , 11:23 AM

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So do you plan to vote for Biden or whomever the dem candidate will be, or third party, or abstain?

Biden. There won't be another dem candidate.

Unlike a lot of folks here, I think biden is doing a fine job. He at least takes his position seriously. I could care less how old he is.

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02-13-2024 , 11:26 AM

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Biden. There won't be another dem candidate.

Unlike a lot of folks here, I think biden is doing a fine job. He at least takes his position seriously. I could care less how old he is.

It's one thing to be disgusted by the republican party because they have too many people in you dislike and so on, but i don't follow how if you are rightwing in your political preference, you would vote for a leftwing president who would nominate leftwing people in his admin, as judges for all federal courts and so on.

Why don't you think voting third party in a way that signals you have rightwing preferences but dislike the current republican party would be better for you?

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02-13-2024 , 11:37 AM

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I'm conflicted what I'm going to do and still consider myself moderate right

The isolation policies of the right is my biggest hangup

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02-13-2024 , 11:37 AM

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Ill vote manchin if he has a republican running mate and is on no labels ticket

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02-13-2024 , 11:39 AM

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I'm conflicted what I'm going to do and still consider myself moderate right

The isolation policies of the right is my biggest hangup

If you have rightwing preferences it's up to you to decide how best your vote can matter.

If you live in a deep blue or deep red state it's fairly reasonably not to vote for Trump no matter what (if you dislike him), but rather for someone else you like more on the right.

If you live in a purple state with thin margins you have to decide if "lesser evil" is sufficient for you to vote Trump or not.

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02-13-2024 , 12:13 PM

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Maybe, just maybe, he thinks that there is more a stake than simply a basket of policies.

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02-13-2024 , 12:15 PM

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The isolation policies of the right is my biggest hangup

For better or worse, I think this is a big selling point for some Trump supporters.

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02-13-2024 , 12:18 PM

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I'm conflicted what I'm going to do and still consider myself moderate right

The isolation policies of the right is my biggest hangup

What would you consider as isolation policies ? Sorry a little clueless on what that means

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02-13-2024 , 12:20 PM

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Maybe, just maybe, he thinks that there is more a stake than simply a basket of policies.

Maybe, but that would entail believing judges and the military are not trustable to keep the constitutional order intact which i guess would mean there is a gigantic problem in the USA no matter who is president (and it's unclear why the armed forces and the judiciaries could be so compromised, yet no sign of that exists currently)

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