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05-23-2024 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
i'm scared of the upcoming election because i have empathy for people that are affected. i will be fine. i'm a white heterosexual cis male with a terminal degree i personally have nothing to fear from a trump presidency. but i, unlike the majority of repulicans, have enough empathy to know that more marginalized people won't necessarily fare similarly.

having more state power wouldn't help poor african american people in mississippi, louisiana, or alabama. but having more federal power might
Man they can move, if they don't , don't feel sorry for them.

They also help your cause better if they move. A democrat vote in Mississippi is waster for POTUS elections, and for federal senate elections
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05-23-2024 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Man they can move, if they don't , don't feel sorry for them.

They also help your cause better if they move. A democrat vote in Mississippi is waster for POTUS elections, and for federal senate elections
Yes it’s so much harder to just all come together and accept some differences and compromises between each other for the greater good !
Just me me me and to hell everyone not like me ….
Just move everyone instead .
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05-23-2024 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
all of this stuff is just utopia talk.

i picked walmart because their grocery stores were literally just accused in price gouging within the last two months. so maybe we shouldn't talk about who has the grasp of the topic.

the local law rarely represents the actual people though. that doesn't happen in reality. it's just a slightly different ruling class that's more ripe for cronyism and corruption. you also just completely dismiss the idea that moving somewhere that "matches with your preference" just isn't suitable for the majority of people in real life.

under regulated states don't do that. because most of them are pretty crappy places to actually live. just look where it's expensive to buy houses. instead you just have backwards red states bankrupting themselves through deregulation decreasing the quality of life every outside their already big mostly BLUE metro areas.
Yup that’s the funniest thing about red states .
They are the poorest and complain about taxes and yet they are the beneficiary of most of it from the federal.
They complain about blue but they never complain when they get the money from them …

They vote against many blue policies but when they pass and get the money they hypocritically say it’s because of themselves they have so much money to help their constituents while they voted against that same bill ….
The amount of stupidity is mind boggling in those rural states .
Go maga go !
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05-23-2024 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Yes it’s so much harder to just all come together and accept some differences and compromises between each other for the greater good !
Just me me me and to hell everyone not like me ….
Just move everyone instead .
move inside the same country lol, yes.

the greater good isn't some platonic thing, just let everyone live among people he share values with, why force cohabitation when you can have different self sorted clusters inside the same country as expected and intended in the constitution?
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05-23-2024 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Yup that’s the funniest thing about red states .
They are the poorest and complain about taxes and yet they are the beneficiary of most of it from the federal.
They complain about blue but they never complain when they get the money from them …

They vote against many blue policies but when they pass and get the money they hypocritically say it’s because of themselves they have so much money to help their constituents while they voted against that same bill ….
The amount of stupidity is mind boggling in those rural states .
Go maga go !
you are thinking alabama, I am thinking CA and NYS vs TX and FL
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05-23-2024 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
move inside the same country lol, yes.

the greater good isn't some platonic thing, just let everyone live among people he share values with, why force cohabitation when you can have different self sorted clusters inside the same country as expected and intended in the constitution?
That is my point .
Only u see the word « force » instead of « compromises » needed to have a functioning country/society .

Btw many Europe countries stuck with what u aim at , called ghettos or suburbs being massive problems later on due exactly because no integrations occurred with lacking of compromises …
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05-24-2024 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
That is my point .
Only u see the word « force » instead of « compromises » needed to have a functioning country/society .

Btw many Europe countries stuck with what u aim at , called ghettos or suburbs being massive problems later on due exactly because no integrations occurred with lacking of compromises …
EH??? the "ghettos" don't have different rules ffs, and get welfare from others. And they exist because housing is expensive not for other reasons. Lack of compromises? europes does more to immigrants than the USA. Problem is our immigrants are mostly low skilled, especially in Italy, France, Spain, Germany. In america a lot of immigrants are highly skilled.

Imagine america almost only getting mexicans and central american immigration without a degree and you get the idea.
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05-24-2024 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
EH??? the "ghettos" don't have different rules ffs, and get welfare from others. And they exist because housing is expensive not for other reasons. Lack of compromises? europes does more to immigrants than the USA. Problem is our immigrants are mostly low skilled, especially in Italy, France, Spain, Germany. In america a lot of immigrants are highly skilled.

Imagine america almost only getting mexicans and central american immigration without a degree and you get the idea.
Wrong ….
Your own words .

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Originally Posted by Luciom
Man they can move, if they don't , don't feel sorry for them.

They also help your cause better if they move. A democrat vote in Mississippi is waster for POTUS elections, and for federal senate elections



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Originally Posted by Luciom
move inside the same country lol, yes.

the greater good isn't some platonic thing, just let everyone live among people he share values with, why force cohabitation when you can have different self sorted clusters inside the same country as expected and intended in the constitution?
You just downgrade the importance of integration and compromises on how society can evolve in a good way .
Some Europe countries have massive problems because exactly of that .
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05-24-2024 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Wrong ….
Your own words .








You just downgrade the importance of integration and compromises on how society can evolve in a good way .
Some Europe countries have massive problems because exactly of that .
Jfc my words where about american citizens living in a state that doesn't represent their preferences, to move in another state. Have you read the exchange?

I don't want to integrate I want to take in only people who are already better than our average citizen, why dilute the average?
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05-25-2024 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Jfc my words where about american citizens living in a state that doesn't represent their preferences, to move in another state. Have you read the exchange?

I don't want to integrate I want to take in only people who are already better than our average citizen, why dilute the average?
Yes and that’s how u create situation like in Europe in the long run ….
It’s ok if u don’t see it .

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 05-25-2024 at 02:40 AM.
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05-25-2024 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Yes and that’s how u create situation like in Europe in the long run ….
It’s ok if u don’t see it .
No the situation gets created because we let in low skilled people lol. That's the source of the problem.
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05-25-2024 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Oh man, where are you when people are circle-jerking over countless articles about taxing the evil billionaires who, "Made more money in the markets yesterday than the bottom half of Americans make in a decade"?
I don't understand why you would ask me that or what it has to do with my post that you quoted.
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06-04-2024 , 12:31 PM
Did Genocide Joe just copy Trump's border policies?

Hmm thought there wasn't a crisis at the border Joe ?
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06-04-2024 , 12:39 PM
Cite please
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06-04-2024 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Cite please
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsSerp
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06-04-2024 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Cite please
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...rants-00161483

To be clear this proves Biden wasn't doing everything in his power previously which means he was putting the interests of foreigners above that of americans which in a normal country would be considered a crime tbh.

This also proves things could be done without congress on the topic, against the objectively false claims of democrats till now, who claimed republicans voting against the package caused the border crisis to stay unsolved.

Oh and this also proves a border crisis does exist.

This also proves republicans were wrong in impeaching Mayorkas for the dereliction of duty on the border and should have impeached Biden instead for it
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06-04-2024 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
To be clear this proves Biden wasn't doing everything in his power previously which means he was putting the interests of foreigners above that of americans which in a normal country would be considered a crime tbh.
What a ridiculous comment. Name one country where this would be considered a crime?
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06-04-2024 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
link
Thank you for providing a cite
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06-04-2024 , 05:07 PM
I'm sure even Trump wasn't doing everything in his power to stop people at the border. And he certainly wasn't from day one of his presidency.

I don't know what the best border policy would be, but I do know that situations change and it is reasonable to try different policies. This doesn't mean that the original policy was criminal or enacted in bad faith.

Biden has always been the type who prefers to enact policies with bipartisan support, and I believe him when he says that he would have preferred to do something with the support of Congress, even if it was within his power to make some changes on his own.
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06-04-2024 , 07:00 PM
Let’s be honest Biden under executive order removed all of Trumps policies on the border and for 3.5 years said the border was secure and no problems . Than when they could not pass a bill he blamed the GOP and said he has no authority to issue executive orders realizing the poll numbers issued executive orders on the border

WTF
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06-04-2024 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
What a ridiculous comment. Name one country where this would be considered a crime?
the USA: not deporting every single one they catch is a felony, one count per alien.

not arresting every single one they catch is a felony, one count per alien.

then there is the violation of the take care clause of the constitution ofc

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06-04-2024 , 07:05 PM
when he encouraged them to come, that was a felony as well btw
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06-04-2024 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Let’s be honest Biden under executive order removed all of Trumps policies on the border and for 3.5 years said the border was secure and no problems . Than when they could not pass a bill he blamed the GOP and said he has no authority to issue executive orders realizing the poll numbers issued executive orders on the border

WTF
They wanted to sneak it in a bill which included tens of billions to Ukraine.

The reason they're doing this is either for political reasons (and I'll be finding out quick if he actually closes the border or if these are just out right lies which they've done in the past) or maybe the correct people are now in control. The pResident is nothing but a shill, and it's in plain sight but some people are too brainwashed to "hate trump" that they refuse to entertain the minuscule possibility the byden's 100% controlled.
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06-04-2024 , 09:57 PM
What Biden has done so far at the border has been excellent for the US.

One of the reasons that the US has lower inflation since Covid than any other Industrial nation is that the millions of immigrants that came in through the border after it was basically reopened (to the same conditions that it had been opened with all Presidents prior to Trump) and millions of tons of food in the US that would have been dead in the field has been picked.

What Biden hasn't done is:
1) Lied about Mexico paying for a wall
2) Diverted money from Defense to allegedly build a wall (really just fixing parts of an already existing wall that in fact had been breached over 5,000 times during Trump's Presidency by rope and ladders that had been purchased in hardware stores)
3) Called Mexicans rapists and animals
4) Separated thousands of children from their families at the border with no info basically to get them back together ever
5) Told Republicans in the Senate to kill a bipartisan bill that would have sped up the legal process for Asylum seekers, shut down the wall when a specific number of immigrants had come into the US in a particular week (I think the number was 5,000 in the bill) and provided more border guards
6) Pretended that immigrants have a higher crime rate in the US than US Citizens (the actual crime rate is less than 50% of US Citizens specifically because it means that they would be deported when caught committing a crime regardless of whether or not they would have been entitled to stay)

What Biden is now doing will be brought to court because as President he likely isn't allowed to close down the border when there are more than 2,500 asylum seekers crossing the border in a week. So he may lose that battle but in the meantime he definitely will be appealing to people who think he isn't doing anything to slow down immigration.

For all the people who think Biden is breaking the law by not disallowing any illegal immigrants to come into the country: LOL. Every President including Trump has been in the same exact situation. There hasn't been a budget big enough to catch every illegal immigrant. No president has tried to get all illegal immigrants out of the country especially parents of current US Citizens unless they had committed crimes (partly because they help reduced inflation by taking jobs that virtually no US Citizens are competing for and partly because there just isn't a budget big enough to actually be able to do it and partly because there are a lot of businesses in the US who have probably threatened to fund political opponents if they did). And basically the person committing the crime is the immigrant themself.
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06-04-2024 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
when he encouraged them to come, that was a felony as well btw
When was that?
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