So this stupid ass ballroom that was supposed to be fully funded by private donations is now being asked for 400 million of taxpayer funding

And you fox news human centipedes who are all gOvErNmEnT wAsTe are down for it huh?

**** y’all. You deserve nothing and certainly not a second of legitimate discourse. I’ll spend all my energy mocking you and none of my energy debating you. I can’t be held accountable of others choose to waste their time tho

That would certainly be a much better approach since you're at least representing a belief and a position that isn't tied to one specific ideology than arguing for some rigid state structured form of governance which could likely end up being the same group of idiots operating an even dumber and more centralized form of stupidity.

The President made a good point. He said the Presidents who assassins target are the ones who get things done. JFK, Lincoln etc.

So, you are in good company then. At least 2 people (you and Trump) have no idea what cause and effect means.

Claiming to be anti-imperialist while supporting a country which justifies its invasions and ethnic cleansings by using old imperial maps is pretty much textbook political stupidity.

I don't care what propaganda they use to justify it, or what you claim they use, after what we have seen in Palestine, Iran, Venezuela, Iraq, libya, Syria, Yemen, it would be foolish and suicidal to let these guys fully arm a hostile ideologically driven industrialized country of 40m on your border.

Ofc, this is why the Russians are not as virtuous as the Revolutionary Shias. Iranian leaders are willing to die or accept disadvantageous ceasefires to avoid mass bloodshed. And Iran formed a military doctrine around this belief. Russia does not have such moral underpinnings.

Ford, Garfield etc.

Would love to read your list of things that Ford got done.

As if nobody targeted Obama, Bush. The current US president is pathetically and pathologically attention hungry

You called for your own country to invade and occupy another country and you "hoped they used force" (paraphrased) against its inhabitants and soldiers. That is one of the the most pro-imperialist statements a poster has made on this forum, mixed in with that very particular American tendency to root for wars, knowing full well you will never have to fight in them. And sure, your motivations are different, just like every other person that cheers for imperialism.

When you keep rooting for war, don't act surprised and morally indignant when you get wars.

Obama had more assassins targeting him than Trump.

What about presidents who fake multiple assassination attempts? Do they get things done?

absolutely no idea what you are talking about. would love to see a quote on this one.

regardless, fighting against the Empire is not Imperialism. probably from a moral standpoint Russia should have planned and implemented a doctrine like Iran to absorb the inevitable attacks that the USA was planning. but they were not willing to let their schoolchildren get bombed, nor did their leaders want to name 7 replacements knowing that they would be martyred as Iranian leaders did.

I think he's confused you with SRM, who is from Iran.

a truly bizarre statement. but its standard for these Western supporting ghouls to twist refusal to surrender into aggression. they will do anything to absolve the USA and Israel of blame.

I think actual shots being fired is Elway's sole criterion.

Hence why I mentioned Ford and Garfield.

I think his parents are from Iran, he's actually American.

Do you really honestly believe that?

Hard to say honestly. I don't believe anything coming from this administration, it's all bs/lies/fake BUT it is the US after all so it's not hard to imagine that someone might attempt to kill the president.

He saw Caroline Levitt say “There would be shots fired tonight” and took it literally.

Nah couldn't care less what that **** has to say. I simply don't believe anything coming from this administration and if the attempt was real, I'm disappointed it wasn't successful.

Obama still has more.

I don't consider the Trump administration particularly truthful either but I also think he's far too narcissistic to potentially risk his own life, by staging an assassination attempt. First attempt by Crooks barely missed him. I think it's simply more likely he's one unpopular mfr, hence multiple attempts on his life.

That was a hilarious faux pas on Leavitt's part that aged like milk, lol.

I’m glad you’re disappointed.

How’s that a faux pas on her part. That’s what people normally do at these events, they take shots at each other. What she said is perfectly reasonable. I’m not shocked the haters tried to turn this into a thing.

And McKinley, who is remembered mainly because his assassination put Vice President Theodore Roosevelt in the White House. (The youngest President to date, a year younger than JFK.) In 1912, running for the presidency again, against Taft, Colonel Roosevelt survived an assassination attempt in Milwaukee, while standing up in his car to greet the crowd outside his hotel.

The deranged would-be assassin's bullet, a .38 Special, which is quite serious, went through Roosevelt's glasses case and the wadded 50-page notes for his campaign speech, before lodging in the muscle of his chest. As he wasn't coughing blood, he assured the crowd he was all right, told the police not to rough up the gunman and drove on to deliver his speech, from his bullet-holed notes, at the city's Auditorium. He didn't win the election, unfortunately. (The US would have made an earlier and stronger contribution to the Great War if he had.) They don't make presidents like that any more, though JFK was likewise an authentic war hero. Bone Spurs, whose reaction to being nearly shot was much more bombastic than Roosevelt's to being actually shot, doesn't qualify at all.

One time a guy tried to assassinate Andrew Jackson but BOTH his pistols misfired and Jackson beat the **** out of him with his cane.