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You don't have a choice, the anarchist mob runs things, not some policy maker, or elected representative. Seems the lefties are glossing over what autonomous means. They've overthrown the government in those six blocks. They are making the rules for those who are there, and none of them were elected through free and open elections. Again, a progressive, lefty government preceded them, so, it's hard to not laugh at the irony.

They overthrew the government or the cops left and let them mill about for a while ?

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06-12-2020 , 01:06 PM

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They overthrew the government or the cops left and let them mill about for a while ?

Keep spinning.

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autonomous:
having the right or power of self-government an autonomous territory

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06-12-2020 , 01:09 PM

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overthrow

verb (used with object), o·ver·threw, o·ver·thrown, o·ver·throw·ing.
to depose, as from a position of power; overcome, defeat, or vanquish: to overthrow a tyrant.
to put an end to by force, as a government or institution.

Bet you regret quitting school, Billy Bob?

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06-12-2020 , 01:11 PM

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This is like the movie where the kid has enough of his parents so he packs his bag and moves into the backyard tree house. Give it a few days until the novelty wears off and reality sets in.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. They're playing "revolution."

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Honestly, the more of these people that self-segregate/isolate, the better. I'd be happy to turn the state of Washington into a holding area for all the extreme lefties. I'm on board with a socialism experiment in the US. Give them WA and see if they can make it work.

Amazon HQ is there, so they'll even have a big evil corporation to enslave into paying for everything while they pursue their true passions, whatever unproductive things that may be.

I am highly amused by all of this. I say we see how this thing plays out.

Amazon's moving out of Seattle to suburbs to avoid all the taxes to pay for all the socialist crap.

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06-12-2020 , 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

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06-12-2020 , 01:27 PM

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Wookie being a brony is a very important piece of the puzzle. Cue the flashback montage as our hero relives past events to put it all together.

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06-12-2020 , 01:48 PM

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I'm sure this is true and this is pretty much what I expected was going on.

That said, I'm not keen on the development of long-term, armed, community security forces. Regardless of the motivations for establishing armed community security forces, they almost always evolve in the wrong direction, which is probably a function of human nature.

They need to lay down their guns.

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06-12-2020 , 03:20 PM

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"rapes and robberies and all sorts of violent acts occurring in the area and their response times have tripled in the area."

lol no ****ing way

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All the police in Minneapolis and Seattle should take a two week vacation and leave town.

And then see what's left when they come back.

NYC snowflake police did this. crime dropped 20%.

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06-12-2020 , 03:26 PM

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I'm with you, I was against it, but the lefties have convinced me, this is a good thing.

I'll vote for that.
Give them the whole state, let all like-minded people move there, station machinegun carrying robots every 100' on the Oregon & Idaho borders (who cares if they go to lolCanada) and everyone is happy for our 196th country.

Win-Win...

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06-12-2020 , 03:28 PM

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People mostly get along in life.
Sometimes they don't and something needs to be addressed but right wingers always seem to think that humans are walking around looking to rob, rape and pillage at every chance. Not to mention they want to loaf and not be a productive member of society.

I guess we all know ourselves the best.

yep. its like the people that think everyone is always lying tend to be the biggest liars themselves. when right wingers think that everyone is gonna rape rob and murder that pretty much shows their own mentality.

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06-12-2020 , 03:37 PM

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I actually don’t care if they take over the Capitol Hill area, no big loss.

conservatives and the powerful are not worried about the loss of the area. but it would be extremely detrimental to prove that such a society could exist and flourish. and thats why everything will be done to destroy it including, if need be, dropping bombs or using grenade launchers.

any threat of actual democracy will be dealt with brutally.

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06-12-2020 , 04:14 PM

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that such a society could exist and flourish.

Guess u r correct...but in the case of Antifastan in Seattle the 'flourish' part seems to be somewhat far stretched.
Cant wait for the law & order part of this story.

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06-12-2020 , 04:15 PM

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Dude, come on, there is graffiti all over the place.

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06-12-2020 , 06:15 PM

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Owner of a business owner in the "autonomous zone" denies a fee has been collected. He did say a delivery guy was turned away at gunpoint.

If a business owner in this antifascistan publicly said they were being extorted they would burn the building down. So the only answer is we don't know. These business owners are in a precarious position. I'm sure these communist morons think they're doing the world a favor by occupying property they have no right to occupy. Total losers

Freudian slip?

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06-12-2020 , 07:04 PM

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lol no ****ing way

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There's a video of the police chief saying this lol.

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06-12-2020 , 07:54 PM

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There's a video of the police chief saying this lol.

There's a police report that the old guy in Buffalo tripped and fell, too.

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06-12-2020 , 08:14 PM

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“It’s very important that we get a council going of elected representatives of the CHAZ zone," he told Sandstrom. "Since you guys are going to be our sovereign state, you guys have to get that going immediately.”
https://www.kuow.org/stories/chaz-co...hat-to-do-next

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At several points in the day, conversations were halted so that people could "hold their ground," and in one case to eject someone allegedly discovered to have been live-streaming to a right wing group. Another time it was to confront police officers who had stuck their head out of the precinct building.

https://www.kuow.org/stories/chaz-co...hat-to-do-next

This is awesome.

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06-12-2020 , 09:51 PM

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I think they are going to let them stay there for awhile.

They either get bored and go home or somebody gets hurt real bad and the police have no choice but to intervene.

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06-12-2020 , 09:52 PM

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There's a police report that the old guy in Buffalo tripped and fell, too.

He's an antifa member. I didn't realize that antifa was training 75 year old white guys! Nefarious, indeed!

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06-12-2020 , 09:58 PM

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Fox is so eager to make CHAZ look scary to their audience that they're photoshopping their coverage:

Literal fake news (the top is one is real, the others are not). idk if they'll delete them but you can see the photoshopped ones on Fox's website here and here for now at least.

Also pretty hilarious that they clearly think their audience is going to be scared by this guy holding a gun, despite years of telling the world this is just normal 2nd amendment behavior lolol

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06-12-2020 , 10:10 PM

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Yeah, the cable networks are not the place for news on this. It's pretty stunning just how this is being spun by everyone. The left is pretending it's still a protest, and not anarchy.

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06-12-2020 , 10:33 PM

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The reddit for this thing is a gold mine. A lot of posts are people offering to help with the garden.

This awesome:

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Basically, Fox News has been saying Raz Simone (a resident artist) is our "leader" or "war lord" and he's designating himself as the police force. This is all nonsense. Raz Simone is a peaceful supporter of the movement and a tremendous asset, however he's no more of a leader than you or me.

You may have heard there was an incident in which it appeared Raz shoved a graffiti artist who tagged over top of an established mural, however this isn't entirely true. Both Raz and the "victim" have made up and there's zero animosity. So it's like it never happened.

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The Zone has no leadership. We have a decentralized local governance structure, and we oppose all hierarchical structures of control, be they governmental, economic, religious, etc.

The fake stories are completely misrepresenting what we are about.

from the same person....

wait for it...

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Proposal: Conflict Resolution Advisory Council
I propose that we form a new kind of system called the Conflict Resolution Advisory Council.

We hold a community democratic vote to appoint three people to the Council. To eliminate prejudice, we elect one Black man, one Black woman, and one white woman. Each person should undergo at least one 45 minute sensitivity and political training session which I can help organize.
Whenever there is an internal conflict in the Zone, it will be put to the Council. Both people will have an opportunity to present their side of the story to the Council to review.
The Council members will decide on a fair resolution and provide it as advice. Initially the Council will be advisory only. In the future the system could evolve to become more mature with binding resolutions, impositions, retribution, and enforcement.
The appointed people will hear out and settle any internal disputes within the Zone. I'm not suggesting that this Council members become leaders or judges, only referees in case of internal conflicts.

oh, and this bit of intersectional idea:

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Edit: After receiving feedback about inclusiveness I think we should include in the council one Black man, one Black woman, one trans Black person, one non-binary Black person, and one white woman (5 4 people).

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06-12-2020 , 10:49 PM

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A vote for CHAZ is a vote for anarchy!

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06-12-2020 , 10:55 PM

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A vote for CHAZ is a vote for anarchy!

Ironically, by all accounts CHAZ appears to function as a police state. Anyone coming in is searched and interrogated, and you are constantly being monitored, and if they don't like the look of you you are promptly thrown out.

I mean, Palestinians in the West Bank have more freedom of movement and privacy than civilians in the CHAZ.

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06-12-2020 , 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

The left is pretending it's still a protest, and not anarchy.

Uh seems like the right hasn't exactly established that it's anarchy:

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Another time it was to confront police officers who had stuck their head out of the precinct building.

Wait the same precinct building in the middle of the CHAZ that the SPD chief was sure protesters were gonna burn down is not only still there, but there's cops going in and out? lol, "anarchy!"

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