You're welcome to look at what my actual prediction for the place was. It's not hard to find on the first page of this thread.

Interesting how we are all talking like it is over. I don't see the separatists acquiescing and deciding to peacefully give back the territory they claimed.

Also, keep in mind that Seattle has banned most of the non lethal options the police would have used to remove the separatists using force, so it isn't clear how they are going to get them to leave at this point.

Given all of that, I think this is far from having played out.

The hippies will piss and moan, but they'll be gone before the Hell's Angels roll into town...

Sad you are going to miss out on some violence directed at people who disagree with your politics?

Well, we finally agree on something...

How about you ****ing quote me where I say I want violence against conservatives.

Pick a stance, liberals are dangerous individuals that kill eachother and/or promote/allow their base to kill eachother and others or they are scared of your biker boys you fantasize about in their leather chaps.

Tell Hell's Angels to roll through southside of chicago, they will have to call their Black Hand allies in a heartbeat, guess we are full circle again into liberals/their base being the hard one's, right?

And let's be honest, you even thinking its somewhat of a reasonable thing to say that hells angels are going to come serve some justice is even more proof of systemic racisim and biases within all systems we have.

Hells Angels, known criminal organization but viewed as a "club" mainly, can be championed by weirdos like you.

Bloods and crips GDS Latin Kings BDs? GANG, any charge you get will be charged as if it was in the commission of promoting said GANG! Gang enhancements and RICO indictments if they ever step out of line! Imagine how it would go if I said "can't wait for my blood homies to come clean out you oppressors that keep killing black/minorities unjustly", it's the same thing you just did but you maniacs don't view it the same.

Stop talking tough and go counter protest coward.

Naiveté can be dangerous on its own.

I don't think liberals are inherently violent and dangerous, but I do think their thought club attracts more of the types of people who are than conservatives do. I'm not even sure it's possible to dispute that.

Look at any study that has investigated the political leanings of felons and it's probably at least 2:1 left:right.

Like, you can make fun of the right wingers open carrying AR15s in their quest for haircuts all day long, but if you look at the people who actually use weapons to harm others, it tells a different story.

inb4 someone links specifically school shooting statistics or some edge case in the data.

In after random claims with no citations at all!

LMGTFY:

Oh, look, 5 seconds later, a study from 2014 that looked at 3 states which have notification requirements in place, letting felons know when reinstated on the voter rolls: https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~marcmere/...tification.pdf


Cliffs on felon party registration:

New York: 61.5% D, 9% R
New Mexico: 51.9% D, 10.2% R
North Carolina: 54.6% D, 10.2% R

The difference is other/unknown.

I even found a rebuttal source for you, to save you the effort of that Google search. Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...oesnt-hold-up/

Cliffs on that link: Well, we lock up a lot of black people, so the data is tainted.

I guess it all comes back to the oppressed black man, doesn't it?

I mean, yes, if you ignore race and racism you will definitely fail to understand that data. Which is not quite to say that literally it's all 100% about oppression, but the data is so overwhelmed by issues involving racial justice that it's disingenuous to treat it as being mostly about partisanship instead.

"Well, yes, but..."

The real question is how can we start locking up more right wingers to even out the score?

We could always make idiocy a crime.

If more right wingers would get randomly punched in the face on the street at all times, you'd see more right wingers punching other people I imagine. Who cares if it's self defense, the stat says they are punching people! Chop these guys hands off already FFS these maniacs!

Oh wait laws and stats only matter when they are in your favor for your narrative at the time right? And hyperbolic statements are only reasonable when you make them too, silly me.

only one death in a six block area (with 3 shootings) of Seattle, in like 3 weeks = most people survived. OMG.

Why do you think you're googling something for me? You're the one making a claim and it's pretty laughable that you think any sane person should take your claims at face value considering your history of posting in this forum.

wn, WaPo, PolitiFact (https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...minals-democr/) and The Marshall Project (https://www.themarshallproject.org/2...le-behind-bars) all point out one of the most obvious confounding factor here that race is important in this discussion. Those numbers you're talking about when controlled for race seem to be pretty close to the political affiliations of those populations at large. So, nothing really groundbreaking there.

The Marshall Project article and data was particularly interesting, you will probably discount them because apparently they are involved with Slate. I think they captured the narrative much better and the questions/data were interesting like the #1 response from people of color on who they would vote for President if the election was today, 29% said don't know/abstain but #2 was 19% for Trump (whites 45% for Trump, 25% don't know/abstain). Here was another thing from them which will be a moment for you to have some empathy with the felons:
"Regardless of who they’d vote for or which party they back, the majority of respondents had little faith in elected officials. More than 80 percent do not believe politicians are generally acting in their interest. This disenchantment crosses racial lines."

wn also mentioned how your argument was disingenuous and I couldn't agree more. This quote captures most of my thoughts on it:
“Before coming to prison I really did not think it was all that important to vote or even care what was going on in the government,” wrote Antonio Ayers, who is incarcerated in Arkansas. “But now that I have time to sit back and watch what goes on, I know that as a citizen it is very important to let what I want to be known by the people in charge.”
I haven't dug into the data enough, but I would bet the vast majority of these folks going into prison aren't very political at all. It would be interesting if they dug a bit more into how political views changed while in the pokey. So, imo, your claim that criminality is something intrinsic to democratic ideology is just so silly that it shows how little you've thought about this subject.

wn deleted my earlier reply (what's new - heaven forbid that I say something that might upset you little fellows)...

Don't care.

What did it take to convince yourself of this nonsense?

Years of research and careful thinking? Sorry if I didn't present it clearly enough.

Update: AOC crushed her Wall Street-funded centrist opponent in her primary tonight (her opponent got a 20%), and an AOC+Bernie-endorsed progressive challenger is looking likely to topple a 16-term rep elsewhere in New York City.

Turns out you celebrated a little early!

Actually, as it stands, everybody left and right wanted them to stay there, except for now your hippie mayor! lol

Is it really being broken up? That's brutal given that we still haven't had any murder death kills, or violent rape events.

I wasn't celebrating AT ALL, let alone too early.

I was/am hoping that citizens seeing thugs destroying businesses and monuments will wake people up to what the so-called "progressive" agenda is REALLY about.