To the best of my knowledge Wookie isn't a lawyer. Maybe you are thinking of Slighted?

1: But cops don't. Got it.

2: My mistake. If you'd like to share what you do, I'll put on my activist hat and contort logic into whatever shape I need to explain why you are being a hypocrite right now. Lie if you must, I'll give it my best shot.

Just think how many generations have already had to live thru the conditions that got us here

Trust me, I'm not about going harder on low level offenders, but his post had nothing to do with that.

I did a year in Boston for stealing $250k to gamble when I was 21, and I did time with the "low level offenders" (lol) you describe, so anecdotally, I can share some stories about who is/isn't there and what does/doesn't happen. It might not be too useful to the prevailing narrative, though.

I assume this is meant to be satire, but it's not very good. Mostly, because you can't satirise yourself, as bahbah discovered to his chagrin a couple of days ago.

I'm pretty sure it did:

Courts weren't hard enough on them when they were committing petty crimes, so they're free to turn into murderers because libs didn't put them in prison for 30 years when they should have.

I'm curious what you think this post says if you get a different reading.

If I had to guess, it's because he knows you don't go from stealing candy at the register to homicide in one leap.

Your average murder suspect has a rap sheet a mile long, and for a lot more serious stuff than driving without a license or criminal mischief.

I could write a treatise on who does and doesn't get locked up in the US, both federally and in state.

A lot of people who are there deserve to be there. I met more than one wife-beater that got bailed and was back within a month on the same charge. "***** set me up". Yeah, buddy, I was just standing there, peacefully, peeling my orange, when this guy ran round the corner, backwards, right onto my knife! And repeated it 40 times.

That is not to say there not are some egregious disparities in sentencing, which do overwhelmingly disfavour blacks, because of the legislative obsession with crack since the 80s.

Happy to have this discussion, but for it to be meaningful, we have to discern between fed and state, and pre- and post- sentencing.

Murder rate:



You're arguing for the system that got us to the status quo while saying "the status quo sucks and is unacceptable", it's blah blah meowchow. What you bring to the table here is "be tougher on criminals but just, like, only the ones who deserve it" like it's some radical ****ing revelation nobody's thought of before, and not an exact rehash of what led to bipartisan agreement that this country has a serious problem with putting too many people in jail.

Cops always have ample representation in the courtroom, always a defense attorney, and the prosecutor may be on their side as well.

Well, just because one believes the status quo is unacceptable doesn't mean they think the solution is to reduce policing or give shorter sentences for serious crimes.

This graph just states what we already know. Milwaukee is infested with criminals. What part of defunding the MPD is going to change this graph?

Are you seriously suggesting that eliminating law enforcement would reduce the number of murders in Milwaukee?

If so, I'm interested to hear your theory on how that works.

I'm not following the logic on how cops create crime, which is what you guys seem to be arguing. Cops react to reported crimes and document them. They investigate criminals and refer them to prosecutors. That's it. They're not out there drumming up false charges against non-whites. In a City like Milwaukee, reporting property crimes is barely worth the effort because you have absolutely no hope of seeing resolution. Cops are buried with more important calls and frankly couldn't care less that someone smashed your garage windows and stole your lawn mower or whatever. Those types criminals aren't even sought, much less caught and charged with anything.

Milwaukee Public Schools has a massive problem with student behavior. The discipline rates were through the roof and pressure was placed on the district to reduce suspensions and other negative outcomes. So they did. They stopped issuing suspensions. The underlying behavior hasn't changed. Classrooms are still a disaster, and in many cases even moreso because the worst offenders aren't being suspended any more. But hey, stats on discipline are down, so great success!

That seems to be what you want to do with the police force.

Be mad that there appeared to be an unjust shooting by police, fine. But those cops aren't just picking people at random off the street. They were there for a reason in the first place.

Where's the Jim Carrey gif? STOP BREAKING THE LAW, *******!.gif

Me: what on earth is making the same argument tough-on-crime right wingers have been making for 30 years going to do?
You:

lol, just wildly flinging poo in all directions to see what sticks

Maybe it's like corona testing?

I was actually thinking the same thing. The leftist position concerning crime seems very analogous to the rightist position concerning Covid.

In New York, where a lot of the indiscriminate police violence occurred, the police unions don't negotiate over discipline and firings.

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On one hand it does seem perfectly reasonable to look at this as cynical politics, and Trump certainly has earned his reputation for engaging in cynical politics.

But on the other hand, it is day 45 of guys dressed up like ninjas running around the streets of Portland breaking **** and attacking police officers.

So it would appear something is in order.

On the third hand, we could stop engaging in false dichotomies.

Do you realise it's actually possible to have a police force that isn't an arm of the Stasi? Source: every single ****ing non-shithole country except USA#1.

Hi there Joe! Did you go away because you had some pangs of pain in your vital organs? That's called your "conscience", great to know it still works.

lolol, guessing Joe deleted that post when he realized it's a bit of a self-own for conservatives in light of their stance on protecting Confederate monuments

LOl no. I tried to add another tweet to the post but stuffed it up and had to delete the resulting mess.

You are right WELLNAMED. Itshotinvegas is clearly not racist.

His hard driving pursuit to defend racist police all across America is just him trying to do the right thing for society.

WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS FORUM?

Itt ins0 claims nobody would quit a job where a co worker murdered customers and the company would do nothing about it.

I guess this explains how my cousin George got caught up working for a slumlord and is unable to leave. It’s not possible to leave a job on moral grounds.

What do you think should be done to improve conditions? What do you want done?

Incarcerate more of the Blacks, ldo. He's been abundantly clear about that.