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Racist tropes, bigoted tropes, anti-Arab tropes, islamophobic tropes…..does it really matter? Maybe focus on not doing it as opposed to exactly the term for it.

It's kinda necessary for justification tho

01-21-2024 , 07:11 PM

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Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by uke_master

Racist tropes, bigoted tropes, anti-Arab tropes, islamophobic tropes…..does it really matter?

You wouldn't think so. You'd think that if the mods saw a guy calling Arabs bloodthirsty tribal Nazis they'd tell him to knock it off with that hateful **** instead of getting precious about what the word "racism" means, yet here we are.

01-21-2024 , 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

This is as dumb as when someone said that Palestinians are semites and he's pro Palestine so he can't be antisemitic

If you want to use a different word go ahead but in general racist means prejudiced against a group and the rest of this talk is dumb

It reminds me of when the beef industry was trying to get the term "veggie burger" banned to protect consumers from being mislead. I'm sure there was a lot of "Websters defines" and "words have meaning" in those briefs. The people quibbling over what a race is might not be too bright, but they also have an agenda.

01-21-2024 , 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

It reminds me of when the beef industry was trying to get the term "veggie burger" banned to protect consumers from being mislead.

They been tricking me into thinking hamburgers have ham in them for ages. Seems like deceptive labeling.

01-21-2024 , 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

They been tricking me into thinking hamburgers have ham in them for ages. Seems like deceptive labeling.

Double r burger from roy rogers has ham

01-22-2024 , 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

So what race are Vivek Ramaswamy and Nicki Haley? Most would say Indian or south Asian despite the difference in their skin tone. I guess words have meanings though and it’s what low info internet trolls need at any moment.

Yes they do have meanings glad you're finally getting it. Asian isn't a race either.

01-22-2024 , 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

As I feared - you seem to be ignorant of the broad definition of racism, which doesn't apply only to people of the same ethnicity because race is a social construct.

So making derogatory comments about the Portuguese or about Arabs is racism.

I'm pretty sure actual (American, anyway) racists would be biased against both Arabs and Jews, as most could not tell the difference between them based on visual appearances.

01-22-2024 , 06:26 AM

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Bit surprised to be lectured that 'Arab is not a race', when Arabs are a universally recognised ethnic group speaking a language called Arabic.

What language do black people speak? If they don't have a defined language, does that mean people biased against others for their skin color are not racist?

01-22-2024 , 07:10 AM

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You are welcome to choose any definition you like for racism and then apply it to any group you like. .

Maybe they didn't teach you this in the army but this isn't the 1930s and people can't easily and neatly be consigned to one or other "race", because their genes are usually from all over the place.

It's complex. Maybe the corpus suggestion of using "bigoted towards" works better for you.

Edit. Just saw your last post. Ok, in future please mod bigotry towards Arabs with a warning, or at least point out that's what it is rather than appear to defend it, thanks.

01-22-2024 , 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chillrob

What language do black people speak? If they don't have a defined language, does that mean people biased against others for their skin color are not racist?

Ebonics, LDO.

01-22-2024 , 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Fortunately I received my bachelor of science degree in bacteriology prior to going into the Army, and had a couple of genetics classes along the way. And I dont recall stating anywhere that people can be easily and neatly consigned to one or another race, as you suggest I did.

01-22-2024 , 08:03 AM

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Only slighted has that power. Ask him

01-22-2024 , 09:16 AM

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None of this explains why you're allowing 2p2 to become a hate site.

01-22-2024 , 09:20 AM

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2p2 reflects the standard opinions of the public. and really, the opinions on Arabs and Muslims and Palestinians is mild here when compared to what people say elswhere.

01-22-2024 , 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

None of this explains why you're allowing 2p2 to become a hate site.

JFC man, listening to you, one would think this place is turning into Stormfront or something. Chill.

01-22-2024 , 09:33 AM

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JFC man, listening to you, one would think this place is turning into Stormfront or something. Chill.

The key difference is that I imagine calling someone a Nazi is meant to be complimentary over at Stormfront.

01-22-2024 , 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

None of this explains why you're allowing 2p2 to become a hate site.

If you truly believe that then you should pm the owners or a higher admin like Mike Haven and let them know how you feel and seek my removal as a mod. If you show them evidence to convince them your accusation is true, and they agree with you, I will gladly step down.

01-22-2024 , 10:43 AM

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I'm not interested in speaking with your manager. And I'm not interested in forcing anyone out. I have asked, in good faith, why you're allowing this kind of anti-Arab hate here, and I think I'm entitled to a serious answer instead of this unserious "pAleStInEaN iSn'T a RaCe" deflection.

01-22-2024 , 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

They allow phrases like zionist wastes of life and calling jews nazis too

Just ignore the ignorant people that do it. It's been much more enjoyable since i have

01-22-2024 , 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by corpus vile

Yes they do have meanings glad you're finally getting it. Asian isn't a race either.

Yet every standardized test we took as kids had Asian as a bubble for race. You guys just can’t go back and forth making these crazy sharp distinctions between race, ethnicity what is and isn’t a racial classification and then also pretend like words have meaning so that there is no context in which Asian as a race is valid. It’s so stupid I think even you are trolling purposely now.

01-22-2024 , 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

They allow phrases like zionist wastes of life and calling jews nazis too

I see the guy who got banned for being an antisemite is back in the Israel with a new gimmick account. FWIW, I don't think that **** should be welcome here either.

01-22-2024 , 11:40 AM

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I see the guy who got banned for being an antisemite is back in the Israel with a new gimmick account. FWIW, I don't think that **** should be welcome here either.

I reported a post but was told he wasnt calling a poster a name so it was okay

01-22-2024 , 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

The three races used to be caucasoid, mongoloid, and negroid

But as we said, it's a social.construct but who cares

01-22-2024 , 11:46 AM

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I reported a post but was told he wasnt calling a poster a name so it was okay

LMFAO

01-22-2024 , 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

I reported a post but was told he wasnt calling a poster a name so it was okay

Haha that definitely mirrors my brief experiences with pist reporting. Had a mid tell me a post saying ‘X’ wasn’t actually saying ‘X’ only to have the guy who made the post cone and say of course I was saying ‘X’.

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