I haven't seen the video yet. Can't do it.

But what I get from this thread chauvin is a chauvinistic ******* and bully probably the baddass of his team. Baddassas in the military or police get a lot of respect in those forces. Although they are idiots they get enforced. Someone needs to do the dirty work.

Alpha male so to say. Hierarchy would also also explain the other idiots doing nothing.

Being filmed he felt like on a huge powertrip. Some people or kids are getting even more wild when they know they are being filmed or watched. I think that happened here.

This stuff was probably like a drug to him. Only now it's over with the craziness. Idiot being idiot he stepped over the line. They should have seen it coming this guy was a ticking timebomb that already went off too many times.

What I don't get from these racist cops is when they get home they watch NBA, NFL, Boxing, and listen to black Music.

You think that watching black people perform as athletes and entertainers is inconsistent with being racist? Have you ever been to the United States?

Apart from being a ****, he doesn't think he treats some people badly because he is racist, he is so steeped in that racism that he think he is treating minorities correctly and will be seen to have done a good job by his peers. That's based on a lifetime of being treated that way apart from a few 'annoying idiots' who can be largely ignored. Cameras have changed everything but it hasn't sunk in with some of them yet.

Next step is to make all officers understand that their duty to the public is above their loyalty to their fellow officer. Holding them criminally responsible if they just stand by while an officer behaves criminally has to part of that.

My initial thought was that the head of the police department should be forced to resign.
Haven't they arrested Chauvin yet? That has to be the logical and the right thing to do. And I imagine it would greatly ease tensions.

Indeed.

And that's why the commander and supervisors should also be fired.

An individual that sick should have been weeded out long ago. This is his fault 100% but it's even more the fault of his chain of command who allowed him to progress in his illness while on the job. THAT is even more troubling than his murderous behavior. And his behavior is sickening.

I think you mean that in a rhetorical way.
It should be paradox I know but isn't.

Lived in the USOFA for almost 5 years so yeah I been there.

Agree that the supervisors should also get fired definitely.

Yo the county medical examiner hasn't even given an official cause of death yet.

Medical examiner issues statement on death of George Floyd

Quote:

An official cause of death for George Floyd remains a mystery as the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office says it cannot rush the autopsy process.

In a statement released Thursday evening, the medical examiner's office said it is "awaiting final results from laboratory studies to provide the most medically accurate cause of death determination possible."

The statement notes that the medical examiner understands the pressing need to transparency in Floyd's death, which is believed by many to be at the hands of four now-former Minneapolis police officers who were involved in Floyd's arrest Monday night.

"However, the autopsy alone cannot answer all questions germane to the cause and manner of death, and must be interpreted in the context of the pertinent investigative information and informed by the results of laboratory studies," the statement said.

Floyd was pronounced dead at 9:25 p.m. at the Hennepin Healthcare emergency room, where he was transported after losing consciousness while an arresting officer knelt on his neck.

This is sure to come up in a trial. Good idea to nail it down accurately and in detail so if and when it is challenged in court it will stand up. The cops are going to get charged and get a trial I'm sure. If the defense can shoot holes in the autopsy and its findings then perhaps reasonable doubt can be created. We don't know all of the details of Floyd's medical condition and you can bet the cops defense team will be digging up all the info they can on it to try and indicate there was another contributing factor to his death like an underlying medical condition.

I assume you support the notion that cops should have their day in court and have to be found guilty by a jury.

Then you really haven’t been paying attention.

That's one way to go down. Excellent.

Did I miss any mention of the CNN crew arrest in any threads here or you guys are just cool with it?

I didn't see the video, but they were told to move and didn't move.

If the story is that simple, they should have been arrested.

Of all the crazy stuff I saw yesterday and this morning this is still the craziest:

“In Minneapolis, kneeling on a suspect's neck is allowed under the department’s use-of-force policy for officers who have received training in how to compress a neck without applying direct pressure to the airway. It is considered a “non-deadly force option,” according to the department’s policy handbook.“

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...eeling-on-neck

I’ve never seen a copy of this training but I’m confident it’s for a brief period as a last resort to get restraints on a guy.

‘I didn’t watch the first hand account but I heard a second hand account so that’s good enough for me’

This is standard procedure. You could have someone that was shot 3 times and the same statement will come out

I am baffled that they could not charge him with manslaughter at the minimum and later upgrade the charges.

I am also unsure how you prosecute the other officers. I know we see a picture of two officers. What about the other two ? White?

Have you been equally baffled in the other thousands of cases involving police officers where this also didn't happen. Can you name a single incidence in an officer involved situation where the officer was charged in the first 2 days, especially when cause of death hasn't even been determined? If you can't, why do you expect this to be an exception.

It is interesting, because you guys are for the most part intelligent. But at the same time it is apparent you are so emotionally invested your high brain functions have been completely shut down and it is all just reptilian brain operating right now. (which I should note is exactly what the puppet masters expect)

What do you think?

I'll help you out. I seriously doubt they are white, or their pictures would be plastered all over the front page of CNN, NYT, WaPo; and their addresses would be leaked on social media.

You really don't understand how this works? This is about shaping a narrative. And any facts that don't fit the narrative are omitted or discarded.

This is standard

As a society, we really need to stop with this narrative that racism is a binary thing. When people think of "racist or not racist" generally it's one of two camps:

a) You want to join the KKK, say the N word and bring back slavery.
or
b) You want peace, love and equality for all and believe in MLK's dream

It's a narrative that helps shield most people who do have prejudices or racial biases. But because they're not flaming neo-Nazis, they consider themselves not racist. Racism is seen as an binary identity, something that "is in people's hearts" when it's really the actions you take which are more nuanced.

You can have a black friend (or many black friends) and still be racist.
You can be a liberal, donate to democratic candidates and yet when you see a black man in the woods, your reaction is that he is a scary threat (see Amy Cooper).
You can be a segregationist senator and fight your whole life against equality, but also have a black daughter, that you support her whole life (see Strom Thurmond)
And yes you can enjoy sports, rap music, and other areas where black people are dominant but then see a black person on the street and think of them as less human than a white person.

Ya. When I think misunderstood and given an unfair racist label Strom Thurmond is the first name that comes to mind

Ah I get it you support mob violence and mob justice. Got it.

Freddie Gray Case

Freddie Gray died in police custody and all officers were acquitted or the charges were dropped. The medical examiner ruled Gray's death a homicide.

Medical Examiner Testimony in one of the Freddie Gray Cop Trials

Quote:

The doctor who performed Freddie Gray's autopsy defended in court Friday her conclusion that his death was "no accident" but a homicide — a finding that helped lead to criminal charges against six Baltimore police officers since Gray's death last year.

Dr. Carol Allan, an assistant medical examiner, took the stand on the second day of the trial of Officer Caesar Goodson Jr., the driver of the transport van in which Gray was injured. Goodson, 46, faces the most serious charge in the case: second-degree depraved-heart murder.

....

Under cross-examination, Askew questioned whether Allan had all the information she needed to make a clear determination of Gray's manner of death, including all available medical records. Askew noted that by the time Gray's body arrived for autopsy, extensive surgical work had been performed on his neck at Maryland Shock Trauma Center. That meant Allan was not able to analyze Gray's neck as it existed at the time of injury, though Allan noted that she did have images of Gray's spine from one hour after his arrival at Shock Trauma.

Askew asked Allan if there was any evidence that Gray had an acute or chronic "reactive airway disease," such as asthma. Allan said there was not, but later testified that evidence of "exercise-induced asthma" would not show up in an autopsy report. Gray ran from police before being arrested, and the officers involved in his arrest have said that they searched him in part because he had asked for his inhaler.

Nah medical examiner finding won't come into question and be key part of the case. But for the mob rule supporters it doesn't matter I realize.

But is it real? I am genuinely curious whether you think this is real or not?