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06-02-2020 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Good news, we did an internal investigation on the looters and rioters and cleared them of all charges. So everyone can rest easy tonight
Just to be safe, please put them on 2 week paid vaca...err disciplinary leave then pay for their relocation to a protest in another city.
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06-02-2020 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
China and Russia are probably pissing themselves at how weak The US is in allowing this mayhem to continue. If this happened in China you would have ten thousand dead protesters by now.
And what does that tell you about what the U.S. response should be?
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06-02-2020 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Good news, we did an internal investigation on the looters and rioters and cleared them of all charges. So everyone can rest easy tonight
This is actually really funny. And sad.
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06-02-2020 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
Just to be safe, please put them on 2 week paid vaca...err disciplinary leave then pay for their relocation to a protest in another city.
Lol nicely done.

Had a thought: are these protests relatively unprecedented in terms of support? I don't know enough about the 1992 or 1968 riots, but it seems like a significant part of the population is at least sympathetic to the rioters' side. There's an obvious implication to this, which is that Trump could face significant political blowback to using the military on protestors, in a way that wouldn't have happened in 1992.
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06-02-2020 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
White people using carefully selected graphs and stats is proof racism doesnt exist. Are these the same people, by chance, going on about how the covid numbers are manipulated? Can't be right
BLM matters talks about the ratio of people killed by police vs the population of each race. You can't get a worse thing to compare to than than the population. At least this dives a little bit further.

I am still looking for a reason why cops are considered racist against black because they kill a higher % of blacks than their population % and why sharks get off the hook and aren't considered racist against Native Hawaiians.

Last edited by bahbahmickey; 06-02-2020 at 09:45 AM.
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06-02-2020 , 09:34 AM
Mod Note: I would like to ask everyone to avoid unnecessary celebrations of violence. Whether it's against looters, rioters, protestors, cops, or anyone. In general, advocating for violence is against the rules of this forum, and will normally get you temp-banned. Given the current situation this is tricky to enforce while still allowing people some room to express their views, but it will be easier if people just try to moderate their own language to avoid being needlessly provocative.

Thanks.
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06-02-2020 , 10:06 AM
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06-02-2020 , 10:46 AM
The guy that tackled the gunman was arrested for assault while the gunman was charged with disorderly conduct with a firearm.

You can guess which one is more serious.
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06-02-2020 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
Maybe I was being naive, but I never thought I would see other countries sending their wartime journalists to the United States.
In a lot of countries the local narrative is that things are better here than any place else, including the USA (this is sort of the essential point of any nationalist narrative), and the current situation is just a windfall for the narrative.
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06-02-2020 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
The guy that tackled the gunman was arrested for assault while the gunman was charged with disorderly conduct with a firearm.

You can guess which one is more serious.
I think the guy who tried to tackle the other guy deserves to be punished as the form on that tackle was horrendous. He didn't get low enough initially and you have to wrap and drive. His initial wrap was okay, but he stopped at the point of contact.
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06-02-2020 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
The guy that tackled the gunman was arrested for assault while the gunman was charged with disorderly conduct with a firearm.

You can guess which one is more serious.
Must have been the stars and stripes face mask.
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06-02-2020 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
An observation from the other side of the pond.

Bearing in mind the news networks all appeared to have cameramen/women/people stationed on rooftops overlooking Lafayette, how did the Secret Service allow Trump to walk to the church? Did every camera have an attending agent?
How long before this photo op did the media know about it? I reckon it was a long time in advance. Days.
Without a lot of planning, this walk would never have been allowed to happen.
The secret service had to be prepared to create a safe walk with escape routes. Probably took them a few hours. There is so much media by the white house, and the press corps there, they didn't need to be notified in advance. In fact, I would think the Secret Service probably would have viewed notifying the media as a security risk.
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06-02-2020 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I think the guy who tried to tackle the other guy deserves to be punished as the form on that tackle was horrendous. He didn't get low enough initially and you have to wrap and drive. His initial wrap was okay, but he stopped at the point of contact.
In that case, how much should that fat **** cop be punished for failing to tackle the tackler?
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06-02-2020 , 11:26 AM
Biden's speech about George Floyd



(starts at about 12:08, or click here: https://youtu.be/QCZN74rZPCQ?t=728)
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06-02-2020 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
The secret service had to be prepared to create a safe walk with escape routes. Probably took them a few hours. There is so much media by the white house, and the press corps there, they didn't need to be notified in advance. In fact, I would think the Secret Service probably would have viewed notifying the media as a security risk.
lol The entire point of the whole thing was so trump could stage a photo-op/appearance to try to make himself look good. Kinda need some media involved to bring the script to life trump may claim he hates the media but he literally lives for it. It may be the only thing he truly loves actually.

Whether or not it looks good for the President to be standing in front of a burned out church amidst other wreckage while claiming we're the greatest country on Earth while talking about how everything's going to be nice and safe lol is beside the point.

Every single thing trump does goes in basically this order 1-make a decision 2- alert the media 3-obsess over the coverage 4-talk trash about it 5-go back to 1.
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06-02-2020 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by fredd-bird
In that case, how much should that fat **** cop be punished for failing to tackle the tackler?
Don't even get me started on him. Slow to react, terrible form, he's afraid of contact, nursing an injury in the middle of the play and not aggressively going after the man or the ball (the gun) when it was on the turf. Dude doesn't want it enough - he is just walking around waiting for a teammate to make a play.
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06-02-2020 , 11:37 AM
Pigs are setting up

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06-02-2020 , 11:42 AM
Tips for Peaceful Protestors:

1) Don't have spray paint cans with you
2) Bring a sign. Chanting and screaming just spreads COVID.
3) If you get arrested, do not resist
4) If you get arrested, pay attention if they read you your Miranda Rights
5) If you are on medication, make sure you have your pills in the prescription bottle. If you are arrested and explain to the police officer you need to take something they will accommodate you, BUT PILLS MUST BE IN THE PRESCRIPTION BOTTLE! You could be locked up as long as a day depending on where you are.
6) Bring a lawyers number with you in the event you get arrested
7) Don't be scared. You probably will just get a ticket.
8) Typical turn around time probably around 6 hours, but be prepared to be locked up for a day.
9) If a cop tells you they will arrest you for breaking curfew, don't be surprised if you get arrested for breaking curfew.
10) Be prepared to get tear gassed or maced. Not that you are doing anything wrong, but if they guy next to you throws something at the cops, you will just be in the cross fire.

Please add more sensible tips! I think a lot of people are either going to wonder into a protest by mistake or are planning on making their voice heard. Let's try to keep everybody as safe as possible with as little legal ramifications as possible for making their voice heard!

Last edited by Smudger2408; 06-02-2020 at 11:47 AM.
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06-02-2020 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wet work
lol The entire point of the whole thing was so trump could stage a photo-op/appearance to try to make himself look good. Kinda need some media involved to bring the script to life trump may claim he hates the media but he literally lives for it. It may be the only thing he truly loves actually.

Whether or not it looks good for the President to be standing in front of a burned out church amidst other wreckage while claiming we're the greatest country on Earth while talking about how everything's going to be nice and safe lol is beside the point.

Every single thing trump does goes in basically this order 1-make a decision 2- alert the media 3-obsess over the coverage 4-talk trash about it 5-go back to 1.
Wetwork, I was merely responding to how long in advance the media were given notice. I don't think this was planned days in advance, is what I was responding to.
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06-02-2020 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Tips for Peaceful Protestors:

1) Don't have spray paint cans with you
2) Bring a sign. Chanting and screaming just spreads COVID.
3) If you get arrested, do not resist
4) If you get arrested, pay attention if they read you your Miranda Rights
5) If you are on medication, make sure you have your pills in the prescription bottle. If you are arrested and explain to the police officer you need to take something they will accommodate you, BUT PILLS MUST BE IN THE PRESCRIPTION BOTTLE! You could be locked up as long as a day depending on where you are.
6) Bring a lawyers number with you in the event you get arrested
7) Don't be scared. You probably will just get a ticket.
8) Typical turn around time probably around 6 hours, but be prepared to be locked up for a day.
9) If a cop tells you they will arrest you for breaking curfew, don't be surprised if you get arrested for breaking curfew.
10) Be prepared to get tear gassed or maced. Not that you are doing anything wrong, but if they guy next to you throws something at the cops, you will just be in the cross fire.
Nah. At this point "peaceful protestors" should be staying at home and protesting on the internet. By Day 7 of being effective cover for arsonists, looters, rioters and murderers we have to accept that any "peaceful" protestors are actually complicit with their role in the mayhem.
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06-02-2020 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
And what does that tell you about what the U.S. response should be?
It wasn't meant as a recommendation. It's horrific. But all the people calling Trump a dictator and a fascist should be reminded how a real totalitarian state deals with this sort of stuff.
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06-02-2020 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
BLM matters talks about the ratio of people killed by police vs the population of each race. You can't get a worse thing to compare to than than the population. At least this dives a little bit further.

I am still looking for a reason why cops are considered racist against black because they kill a higher % of blacks than their population % and why sharks get off the hook and aren't considered racist against Native Hawaiians.
oh ya well maybe sharks are indeed racist.
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06-02-2020 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Tips for Peaceful Protestors:

1) Don't have spray paint cans with you
2) Bring a sign. Chanting and screaming just spreads COVID.
3) If you get arrested, do not resist
4) If you get arrested, pay attention if they read you your Miranda Rights
5) If you are on medication, make sure you have your pills in the prescription bottle. If you are arrested and explain to the police officer you need to take something they will accommodate you, BUT PILLS MUST BE IN THE PRESCRIPTION BOTTLE! You could be locked up as long as a day depending on where you are.
6) Bring a lawyers number with you in the event you get arrested
7) Don't be scared. You probably will just get a ticket.
8) Typical turn around time probably around 6 hours, but be prepared to be locked up for a day.
9) If a cop tells you they will arrest you for breaking curfew, don't be surprised if you get arrested for breaking curfew.
10) Be prepared to get tear gassed or maced. Not that you are doing anything wrong, but if they guy next to you throws something at the cops, you will just be in the cross fire.

Please add more sensible tips! I think a lot of people are either going to wonder into a protest by mistake or are planning on making their voice heard. Let's try to keep everybody as safe as possible with as little legal ramifications as possible for making their voice heard!
Dont bring an AR 15 to the protest
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06-02-2020 , 11:51 AM
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Wetwork, I was merely responding to how long in advance the media were given notice. I don't think this was planned days in advance, is what I was responding to.
Halfway thru I went back to re-read your post/the post you were responding to see if it made sense and then just said f it and hit reply anyway
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06-02-2020 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by joe6pack
It wasn't meant as a recommendation. It's horrific. But all the people calling Trump a dictator and a fascist should be reminded how a real totalitarian state deals with this sort of stuff.
how many people died in the hong kong protests?
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