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Those making excuses or even comparing police brutality to the U.S are being disingenuous or are uninformed, fully missing the threat which is to our economy, global reputatio, Charter of Rights and civil liberties.

Canadas Police State involves covert police that engage in entrapment, agent provocateurs, "dirt trick" campaigns and massive databases that actively deny and interfere in ciitizens work opportunities.

Whether it is a domestic or a foreign business in Canada, if you employ people here you risk having covert police masquerading as legitimate employees in your business. They also like to control H.R departments and management positions. This method has ensured nepotism for our police industrial complex and is well reflected in our horrible innovation record.

I read somewhere that of 20 or 30 economies over the next 40 years, Canada is predicted to be second last in growth. In short, unaccountable, creepy police states are an enemy to civil liberties and economic success.

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11-05-2022 , 06:43 PM

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chillrob

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Originally Posted by nucularburro

Typical semantic strawmandumbassery.

Deescalation is a thing.

Your insult about Americans made no sense. You watch a video where a woman walks away from a cop who told her to stop, and you say Americans are servile to authority.
I live in the US and the problem here is the opposite, too many people who do whatever they want, despite the authorities telling them to stop.

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11-07-2022 , 09:30 AM

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nucularburro

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They support their troops and their local police union though.

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01-27-2023 , 10:08 AM

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lozen

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This Nichols video tape is coming out in a few hours

The police chief saying worse than the Rodney King Video

5 officers charged

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01-27-2023 , 10:23 AM

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Metod Tinuviel

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Originally Posted by lozen

This Nichols video tape is coming out in a few hours

The police chief saying worse than the Rodney King Video

5 officers charged

I am scared about this. They are already charged with murder and the union is not supporting them. It must be BAD.

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01-27-2023 , 11:19 AM

#10757

jcorb

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Police brutality, assault and murder has been going on for centuries, the only thing that has changed is the events are now being recorded.

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01-27-2023 , 11:50 AM

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David Sklansky

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Originally Posted by Metod Tinuviel

I am scared about this. They are already charged with murder and the union is not supporting them. It must be BAD.

I have a theory that could easily be wrong but is interesting enough to mention.

When a black man is killed by one or more cops, including some white ones, it is almost a certainty that his chances of dying would have gone down if there had been one more black cop there instead. But I think this might have been an exception. Although I don't know why, I feel like the fact that all the cops were black somehow worked against him.

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01-27-2023 , 12:44 PM

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Metod Tinuviel

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky

I don't know either if the theory has any merit. But the idea behind it seems to be if all the cops are the same race there will be more group cohesion. A group with more cohesion is more likely to take action together where as one with less cohesion this is less likely.

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01-27-2023 , 02:47 PM

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FBI director 'appalled' by Nichols video, says civil rights investigation opened

FBI director Christopher Wray said he was “appalled” by video of Tyre Nichols’s beating at the hands of Memphis police, and that the bureau has opened a civil rights investigation into the fatal incident.

“What happened in Memphis is obviously tragic. I’ve seen the video myself and I will tell you I was appalled,” Wray said during a press conference. “I’m struggling to find a stronger word but I will just tell you I was appalled.”

He noted the FBI and justice department have opened an investigation into Nichols’s death under a statute governing police abuses, and “we’ll do it professionally without fear or favor by the book, as I think is expected of us”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...latest-updates

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01-27-2023 , 02:53 PM

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Slighted

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...latest-updates

yeah.. everyone kinda knew this one was going to be horrific because the cops were fired and charged within like 2 weeks of the incident, and the police unions appear to have abandoned them.. which is super rare, although the second part about the police union may be more to do with race..

also the memphis police were already out doing their "please dont hate us for our own actions" apology tour already.

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01-27-2023 , 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Metod Tinuviel

I am scared about this. They are already charged with murder and the union is not supporting them. It must be BAD.

I don't understand; what are you scared of?

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01-27-2023 , 04:01 PM

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Metod Tinuviel

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Originally Posted by chillrob

I don't understand; what are you scared of?

I am scared it is going to be somehow even more horrific than police beating a man to death.

And if I am being honest I am selfishly worried this will set off a period of depression.

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01-27-2023 , 04:41 PM

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So the officers were all black?

I hope this can help people see that the problem isn't purely (or even mostly) about racism, and something needs to be done about police brutality in general.

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01-27-2023 , 05:58 PM

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lozen

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Originally Posted by chillrob

So the officers were all black?

I hope this can help people see that the problem isn't purely (or even mostly) about racism, and something needs to be done about police brutality in general.

Yes all 5 officers were black and somehow CNN will turn this into racism .

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01-27-2023 , 07:45 PM

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browser2920

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Originally Posted by lozen

Yes all 5 officers were black and somehow CNN will turn this into racism .

Pls provide the quote if they do. I suspect they wont, but could be wrong. I'd say it is way more likely that someone on fox says something like this proves none of the other cops shooting black men incidents were about racism either.

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01-27-2023 , 08:22 PM

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https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/opini...nes/index.html

Did not read, I pulled a luckbox and just viewed the headline..."the police who killed Tyre Nichols were black, but still might have been driven by racism"

Lozen with the on fire reads!

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01-27-2023 , 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nutella virus

You should read it. It actually is a very perceptive article that describes a very real situation and view point.

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01-27-2023 , 08:44 PM

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nutella virus

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Ok, I will when when I get a few mins

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01-27-2023 , 08:48 PM

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the pleasure

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skimmed through the first 3 vids.

I guess they got pissed because they let him escape the first time, out of shape and when they caught up to him they were pissed so they beat him up like its a scene from goodfellas

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01-27-2023 , 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nutella virus

Nice. Headlines are all that matter-- the headlines are what they want you to think and the actual content is usually just going to be bullshit. Save yourself some time and don't read them.

I do see on twitter that there is bad police brutality happening lately in the US, shockingly.

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01-27-2023 , 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

I just heard a guest commenter who used to be a cop say that many departments have an unwritten rule that if a suspect makes them chase him, they will beat him when they catch him.

It struck a nerve with me because I have a brother who, in his younger days, was in a lot of trouble. He was in a motorcycle gang in Los Angeles and had been in and out of LA County jail a few times. Fortunately he was able to break away from that life.

So when the Rodney King video came out. I asked him WTF was up with that. He just shrugged and said "everybody knows that if you make LAPD chase you they are going to wail on you when they catch you".

That was over 30 years ago.

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01-27-2023 , 09:16 PM

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Victor

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Originally Posted by browser2920

I would imagine this happened a lot more often 30 years ago. and it still happens all the time.

but libs will say, oh no we cant Defund the Police. thats a political loser. and Biden and the Dems are giving these stormtroopers more money than ever before.

USA is truly the most grotesque society in history.

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01-27-2023 , 09:17 PM

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the pleasure

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Originally Posted by browser2920

damn

I skimmed it so im not sure why he ran or if he was even at fault for the initial car accident, i think it was a car accident

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01-27-2023 , 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jcorb

Police brutality, assault and murder has been going on for centuries, the only thing that has changed is the events are now being recorded.

1. Quite so!

2. Plus that we are living in a wicked and perverse generation of wanton violence and depravity. I suspect stuff like this will be more and more common in the future.

3. There are no political solutions to this wickedness. Political "solutions" are ultimately little more than painting the deck chairs on a sinking ship.

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