That’s true but only to a point. It’s a system that exploits the other according to a hierarchy made 200 years ago. I cannot honestly say poor white people and poor black people are in the same boat in cjs. I know better.

Yes.

Now all you have to do is yell "taser, taser, taser" or "water pistol, water pistol" while holding an assault rifle, kill a bunch of people, and it's an accident.

A very high percentage of cops are scumbags, power tripping fools, racists, white supremacists, sadists, etc. ... and THAT is the explanation for what is happening. Check out the routine interactions with cops on all the audit channels and its just pure abuse of power over and over and over. About one in 10 acts reasonably. A few years ago UK cops killed 7 people, Canada 11, France 3 ... USA 1100.

I don't have a dog in the hunt, i.e. I'm white. I'm not a target of the violent predator policing so rampant in USA. The one time I got in a compromised position I got a break from the cop in the middle of the night, tons of money on me, guilty of an arrestable offense. He cuffed and frisked me while he searched car, when he frisked me I had a chip rack in the inner coat pocket on the way home from casino, he got a touch rough when he thought it might be a gun. I didn't know what the hell it was till he pulled it out. We're cool was his final verdict. Just a citation. Most everything was against me in the situation but race.

It’s pretty clear from the body cam footage and from the record of the officer that shot Daunte Wright that it was very likely an accident. Which doesn’t mean that she shouldn’t face prosecution, but if you look at all the facts this looks like an accident that she used her gun instead of her taser.

They are doing it because they can. And because they can get away with it. It's a simple acting out, akin to teenagers pushing the limits of what they can get away with. Except this time, they are killing people simply because they can. If the first flagrant instance of this had been convicted of murder, put in general population for life ... virtually none of the thousands of other cases would have ensued. Instead, the power abusing, militaristic, predatory, terrorizing police force got wind of the fact that they can kill with impunity. And the killing game was on. It isn't pretty. It's true. Just watch a few videos of how they treat people, and there is little denying it. A petite gal is handcuffed, being abused by cop, she kicks out at him hitting him in the leg. He takes her by the head and slams her teeth first into a concrete floor, causing massive damage. He goaded it, escalated it, assaulted decency, rights and constitution. Because he can and because he likes it.

I think most cops are decent people who simply haven’t been trained properly.

They need to be trained to protect us, including those of us getting pulled over and arrested, not just themselves. And I think officers are happy to get that type of training if it’s offered because it ultimately makes them safer too.

Get rid of police unions.

Massivly expand outreach in schools and community centers.

End the drug war.

End the war on guns.

Massive investment on drug treatment.

Stop listening to progressives.

All of this and cops either snitch on bad cops or get fired also.

All of that would be a massive change for the better.

My best friend's older brother when we were kids and he was home sick from school--would capture a bug and put it in a film canister and all day long move it from boiling water and then into the freezer over and over--when he wasn't shooting bottle rockets at us or throwing us into electrical cow fencing or making us hold stuff so he could practice with his whip. Or chasing us around with one of their dad's revolvers(empty obv--but still) and clicking it at our heads repeatedly etc etc When we got older--because that was when we were like ~7 he got into civil war re-enacting with his cousin who is a cop as well. Both went in the military--then became cops. I could go on thru the list of the others I was raised with who went that route but it's stuff kinda like that and also with a few million beers mixed in. Suffice it to say I have a bit different view

Yes it was unintentional but I assume charges will be filed similar to how some hunters have accidentally shot and killed people.

What’s interesting is many PDs don’t have tazers. If the police didn’t have a taser you could potentially argue for firing a gun at him as police have been run over and killed in this exact situation, where they are partially in the vehicle and the suspect drives off. However she had the non lethal option and confused weapons.

If anyone had to die it’s best it was the suspect and not the police, the female in the car, or an innocent civilian struck during the chase for the vehicle

End Solitary Confinement

End Private Prisons

End Qualified Immunity

Make Parole and Probation less punitive

Reduce Extreme Sentencing

Stop arresting people for drug use, sex work, minor theft

End 3 strikes laws

End Gang Enhancements

End Life without parole for minors

An overwhelming percentage of the police force is guilty either of brutality and rights violations on a regular basis or of being complicit as they observe others doing the same then back them up. In fact, you're a traitor behind the blue line if you come clean on this. What does anyone then expect them to do?

You know, what Reagan did with the air traffic controllers might help. Fired across the board. It's systemically corrupt beyond repair. Mad Max is next. But the police are not protectors or defenders of anybody's rights. Just the opposite. You turn lose a bunch of unprofessional, uneducated, often racist, power drunk aggressive a-holes with little to no checks and balances, and guess what happens? There is a saying "power corrupts" for a reason. Power, with guns, with carte blanche and zero high education or high standing in any meaningful sense ... and what you get is degradation and subversion of justice and even decency. What you get is officers, knowing full well that cameras are on them, or that their city is under the glare of international scrutiny ... just go ahead and torture and kill because they can.

Ok, but how do we fix the police brutality issue?

End Jail fees

Allow Pregnant women to give birth in hospitals- a major irk of mine , this issue gets insanely terrible

Access to College in jail

Allow in person visits

Elect DAs that don’t want their police officers to be brutal

No argument on 2, 3, 5, and I might quibble on 1 in that I think that in an ideal world there's no reason police unions couldn't work, but they sure don't seem to be know so I'm not going to die on that hill. End the war on guns...that sounds ridiculous, but perhaps I'm not understanding it. And stop listening to progressives sounds as silly as just about any "stop listening to the _________" would be, whether it's right, left, or something in between. If you mean stop listening to those with the extreme point of view that mean "defund the police" quite literally as in no longer fund them at all, well, I'd like to know more about what they propose as an alternative, but it wouldn't shock me if I tended to agree with you in the end.

This list, I can't take much issue with. Maybe I'd quibble on a point or two, but nothing worth debating.

I like these as well.

Or have an entirely different system where DAs aren't elected and thus not beholden to voters, donors, or their party.

20-somethings with no accomplishments, that don't even have hot rodding cars out of their system, given a gun and extreme power and put on the street. You should have to be at least 30 with 5 years of some kind of service to the public to be trusted with this. Prove that you are a public servant, not a hot-headed racist hot rodder with a mentality straight out of a junior high locker room.

I think the fact that 9 out of 10 black people think black males are more likely to get killed by the police then die in a traffic accident tells you the problem with police brutality.

Dude you are utterly obsessed with poc. It makes your whole world go round

That people are generally bad at gauging risk and that police are killing black males at a rate higher than any other group of people?

IHIV, do you think that police brutality is a real issue (that is perpetrated by police)?

LOL, what???

It tells you about perception of police brutality (and the lack of ability to calculate risk by the vast majority of people of ALL colours), and nothing about the actual problem.

Okay, what's the likelihood black people or anyone getting shot at by the police? You trot that stat out there, like people, especially black people, should be afraid of getting killed by the police. It Is fear mongering. The odds of anyone getting shot by the police is significantly small, getting shot by the police is almost zero, and if they comply and don't resist, it is virtually zero.

You don't care about police brutality. You care about fear mongering, and racial equity. If you cared about police brutality, you would not be dropping that worthless stat every 10 minutes. That stat doesn't tell you how dangerous police are.

The point is the media is feeding people a line of b*******. They're using racial equity to make the issue of police brutality seem bigger than it is, and people believe it.

You have to be careful that these sorts of things don’t backfire. Like, why wouldn’t you want the DA to be beholden to the voters? There are a lot of good DAs elected recently. Some, like chesa boudin, are actually more liberal than me, at least I think he is hard to say in his first year. I like George Cascon and Larry Krasner a lot. Susan Rollins , Sarah fair, Wayne Dupree all fresh reform minded DAs. DAs have a LOT of power.

My main gripe is that the media doesn’t cover criminal justice issues enough and often acts as cops stenographers. It sounds/appears like your main gripe is that they covered some of the police shootings.