We call them NEOCONS.

And, I apologize for derailing this thread. It is too important to be wasting posts about what small government conservative means.

Happy to have that discussion on third party candidate thread, or elsewhere.

You idiots are arguing about ideologies in a situation where it's cut and dry. This cop who was funded by the state murdered (manslaughter?) a non violent human being. The cop and his coworkers must be charged to the fullest extent of the law. This was a disgusting act and partisanship shouldn't have a role.

Kelhus, are you reading this thread? What were you saying about self-awareness earlier?

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You are utterly wrong...USA is known for being the great melting pot.

this guy has a well known history of using excessive force. this wasn't his first time. they did the right thing this time bc they got caught on video.

Mayor holds press conference and expresses hope of charges being brought.

Yeah but you all seem to hate each other, no offence and seem obsessed with racial issues. Even clear cut murder cases with a boatload of evidence like OJ gets turned into a racial issue. Your hate crimes, such as the murder of James Byrd sr are on a whole new level of depravity, compared to hate crimes in other countries, which in themselves are horrible enough. There was another thread regarding anti Semitism, where one poster stated that when he goes to Synagogue there sometimes needs to be armed police or guards there tpo prevent potential attacks. You guys seem to be like that amp from Spinal Tap. You go all the way to 11. And you give others the impression at times that you're all gonna explode one day.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful here and mean no offence opining this, as overall I think America is a pretty cool country and I've always found Americans in general very nice people. but you guys should drink more decaf, maybe. And maybe start treating each other the way you'd like to be treated or at the very least treat people as you find them and judge them on their individual merits & flaws rather than their background.

Northern Irish Unionist schools Americans on their race problems.

Priceless.

I'm neither from Northern Ireland or Unionist or Republican nor are Northern Irish a race nor was The Troubles over racial issues. I already told you I wasn't from Ulster in another thread. There's that gnat like attention span of yours letting you down yet again...


The amount of stupidity and presumption you've put into that post combined with your now semi stalking due to apparently massive butthurt is hilarious. Keep em coming.

It took two years for cop Mohamed Noor to get done for shooting Justine Damond dead when she pleaded for help so I guess that's how they roll in Minneapolis.

You bring up a good point. You Irish kill each other over even less than racial differences. You pray to different versions of the same God.

Good thing you're above the fray or no one would take you seriously.

But I do agree. I'm giving you way more attention than you deserve for the amount of content you bring. I'll put you on ignore if you like. No problem.

Hannity was outraged so Trump may act. They showed a second video last night were they cuffed him and he wasn't resisting arrest. 8 minutes and the cop looks to be enjoying it.
I see being convicted of manslaughter at best though its clearly murder

I'm surprised Hannity was outraged.

I guess he's old school and thought it should be done in private.

I think we can when it seems pretty clear they're recruiting/selecting for these kind of people pretty much as a sop.

And yet there's a -lot- in the English-Irish situation that serves as a great example/comparison to what's been happening with the US/black community situation here. The fact that it's not based on race(even though looking at some of the old anti-Irish stuff here could make you kinda question that ) alone really ends up highlighting/serving as an example of certain aspects of the situation here, general power dynamics and its effects on the people being oppressed etc.

Whatever you do, do not watch that video especially with sound. I'm still shaking an hour after I finished watching. Absolutely horrifying.

Typically people get charged with a crime when they're filmed murdering someone, I think that's what people want.

They fired obvious miscreants to cover their own asses. Where are the murder and abuse of authority charges?

Why are you so obsessed with race!? Says guy from Ireland

I have to disagree. The gov., whether it be Federal, State or local, with its subsequent police departments, is responsible for the hiring and proper training of each individual officer. And also maintaining discipline and setting proper behavioral guidelines. When they repeatedly fall short of these standards, they can no longer be trusted in that entity. There comes a point when the same old method just doesn't he the desired results and stronger measures have to be taken to get real change done
And think about this hypothetical. A loved one of yours was just recently killed, unjustly in your eyes, by the police. You have a big event scheduled, a wedding or say you organize concerts. Are you going to hire that same department for security? Oh, it was only one rogue cop that killed my son, these are all good guys.
And you're asking people that have been repeatedly punched in the face to act with discretion.

Corpus is a Dubliner. Not a Northern Irish Unionist as you said. (Dublin is the capital of the Republic of Ireland, as you probably don't even know.)

The Troubles in Northern Ireland, from 1969 to 1999, cost around 3,000 lives. (With idiot know-nothing Americans providing some of the finance and weaponry, though most of it was supplied from Soviet or Libyan sources or from criminal racketeering.) Any mayor of Washington DC who had got the city's murder rate down to the level that even Belfast (capital of the province of Northern Ireland, as you probably again didn't know) experienced at the height of the violence in 1972 would have qualified for the Nobel Peace Prize. But that never happened. Washington DC has always had a far worse per capita murder rate than Belfast.

It's interesting that you consider the deep and notorious historical divisions in Northern Ireland, regarding British rule over the province, as being 'less than racial differences.' Clearly, to a certain sort of American, 'racial differences' are the only things that matter.

Britain is fortunate, unfairly so perhaps, in that all her slave plantations were overseas, so the plantation-house mentality, the paranoid racial fear of what 'They' might do if They were not ruthlessly 'kept down', never took root here. In the United States, however... whole nother story. The racism is constitutional. The Second Amendment was drafted solely so that the southern slave-owning states could arm their 'slave patrols' to keep 'em down. The 'electoral college' in presidential elections was instituted simply because the southern states would never accept a president directly elected by black voters in the northern states. And so on.

You may now go.

Still waiting to see what happens there. Can't think what the delay is, given the obvious, unmistakable and publicly known evidence and the city mayor's stated position. Curious, isn't it?

Just going to point out here that 'The Melting Pot' became common parlance because it was the title of a hit 1908 play about America by the British Jewish writer Israel Zangwill. President Theodore Roosevelt supposedly stood up in his box on the play's first night in Washington DC and shouted down to the author, 'That's a great play, Mr Zangwill!'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Melting_Pot_(play)

Colonel Roosevelt is a posthumous holder of the Medal of Honor for his actions at San Juan Hill in Cuba in 1898, so one's hardly going to argue with him.

Honestly I called the USA my home and was proud if it.
The freedom and ease of the us mentality.
With all the bs they also had (gun laws, crazy law system etc) I still loved it.

But know I get the sense that America (mainland USA)
Has become really racist towards minorities. Especially blacks. I don't follow all the news about police shootings
As it would drive me nuts to have this injustice in my life.
But when I heard of this case here they said it's the 3 rd time within a short time a black unarmed person gets shot.


So this is not a single event. It's happening over and over and again and again. Police shots black person. Police kills unarmed citizen through unnecessary force.
I've seen one video and wanted to puke afterwards.
It's was a cop shooting and unarmed black guy. With 20 shots or so. I wanted to kill the guy as he was clearly in the wrong for shooting. It was heart breaking. It was just a kid maybe 18y old sitting in his car. When he got murdered his gf was sitting in the passengers seat.
All these stories are heart breaking and not comprehendable. This doesn't happen anywhere else.

Then you hear oh but it's the police station it's the district that didn't train the officer right. What's there to train right?

Every kid in school knows that killing is totally wrong .
Excessive force to risk someone s live is wrong.
I don't think you don't need any IQ for this to know.
But still it happens all the time. Only in the USA though.

There is no other nation this craziness is going on.
Humans get killed for nothing. Trust me if it would happen anywhere in Europe there would be 1000s of cops in jail for life. But not so it the USA. Totally wrong.

And I get it. Some minorities are in gangs and violent. Because of inequality of education and so on.

The police will argue they felt threatened but when you see the tape they are lying. And thank God for the new technoloy as evidence.

But most of the police killings Of blacks happen to innocent REALLY innocent people.