It's only reasonable. Statistically each of them are more likely to pull out a gun and shoot you than the average person. In a group it's almost a certainty one of them well.

Sorry, I have to go and find my fainting couch. I've suddenly been overcome with fear.

I troll at times, but your whole character is based on that, like you did with your fainting coach post. That disposable nonsense is fine, however when you break character that is when you get into some issues. Don't let your real life racist beliefs get in the way of your posting character. That character was a harmless buffoon that you enjoyed and it triggered people properly, just stick with that in the future and you will be just fine. No need to thank me, but you know I speak the truth. You can post a hand waving of this advice as you need for your character, but just keep the real racist in you on the sidelines in future. Thanks!

All the best.

joe are you going to ignore this straightforward request? seems bad faith

No I can't. Everytime I look at that picture I have a fainting spell. So I will have to decline at this stage. Sorry.

By the way Suzzer, did that pony survive?

Everything is the previous president's or the next president's fault. Trump 2020!

If you had asked me to conjure up an image of a Trump presidency in 2016, this basically would have been it.

Well, joe's been involved in government for 40 odd years and he hasn't resolved any of the supposed issues that led to this so maybe Trump's got a point.

Yeah, definitely. None of this would happen if Donald Trump was president!

joe's trolling game is back on point. In that one sentence there were so many different stupid things to comment on that I got dazzled and confused by it all and froze.

Can Trump wear some normal ****ing clothes for once

Anecdotal! #NOTALLBUFFALORACISTS

joe, please rank these guys as to which you empathize with the most. Which have just been pushed to the brink by stupid libtard policies and have no choice but to act out. Sad, but understandble.

Also how in the hell is every regular at a bar like that in Buffalo not dead yet, given the looks of them? It's really only a matter of time. Good luck when it gets cold. One of those idiots is going to get it and just firehose blast the rest of them for days.

LMFAO, look at those shoes. What an embarrassing clown. This is the sad little manlet you MAGA chuds have elected as your standard-bearer.

I agree that comparing each races’ total shooting by police to violent crimes isn’t perfect, but neither is comparing the number of police shooting to population % either.

Unfortunately it isn’t realistic to expect the police to kill exactly 0 people every year just like expecting 0 car crash fatalities isn’t realistic. So what do you think is a better statistic to look at to determine if the police are killing more than expected of one race or another?

if one could get video of him walking through that rubble, and dub some johnny cash Hurt over it, could be strong contender for Trump 2020 campaign vid

I guess Joe doesn't know the rules....

Mention that BT dated drug dealers thereby putting herself in a dangerous situation? NOT ALLOWED YOU RACIST

Mention that Jacob Blake raped a woman 2 months before he got shot and had a warrant for this crime? NOT ALLOWED YOU RACIST

Make claims about the patriot prayer guy fired a gun first? Allowed

Post video showing Kyle Rittenhouse assaulting a woman? Allowed

Well, you see, BT and Blake are mere outliers. Can’t extrapolate much from those facts.

i agree with beast's sarcasm. we should be able to smear murderers and their murder victims equally.

The BT one is ridiculous. She didn't deserve to die for it any more than someone who puts themselves in a dangerous situation by driving 3 hours/day on LA freeways deserves to die. It's irrelevant and blaming the victim.

The Blake one could actually be relevant because the cops were called there for him, and presumably would have been read his record, which may have led to the idiot cop ultimately panicking and shooting him. I'll give you that. He still didn't deserve to die for it.

PP guy brought mace to a gun fight. But he did fire first, and it could have easily looked like a gun in the dark coming from his leg-holster. From earlier pictures, he also was concealing something - either a knife or gun - above his waist in the back. And his BFF Chandler Pappas was spraying people with paintballs all night. They were no angels is what I'm saying.

Why wouldn't Rittenhouse beating a girl be allowed?

This is the **** that just has to end. It has to be easier to get rid of bad cops.

There are police forces around the world to do things like aim for the leg.

But it's a questionable procedure, in my opinion. First of all it is a much harder shot. This puts yourself and your team at greater risk and of course there are other inherent risks involved in a missed shot or a stray bullet. Secondly, legs and arms contain a lot of major blood vessels that can quickly lead to death if hit. And even if you miss those, it probably still requires a lot of additional resources and training (availability of medics, first aid, cooperation with other rescue services etc) to achieve any acceptable level of non-lethality (if at all).

Thirdly you don't control all factors of the situation. If a target is moving, then arms and legs move very fast making a shot not very feasible. Similarly, arms and legs might not be possible to hit in many circumstances. So you would end up with a procedure that requires certain situational factors to coincide. You don't really want to be standing around and waiting for the universe to coincide while in a critical situation.

Fourthly, since it is harder, it also requires a great deal of additional training to do - especially when you are training to do under high levels of stress. You can't just learn it and then ignore it until you need it, it's something you need to keep fresh with repeated training. I'm no expert, but I would be surprised if all these resources combined would not be put to better use in other ways; you have limited time and budget for such things, so it's really more a matter of choosing priorities than doing everything that is (or could be) a good idea. I wouldn't be surprised if you found that in many precincts there is hardly any training at all, the world often being a burdensome place when it comes to available time and money.

Fifthly, hitting a limb is no guarantee of passifying someone. Someone with a weapon or violent intent can still be dangerous if they are hit, especially if they are angry or were angry. So even if all the above are somehow manageable, you might still be far from able to achieve the minimum goal of your procedure.

Aiming center-mass sounds like the better plan to me, easier to hit, less risk to you and others, less risk of stray bullets, easier to train for and keep fresh. Less dependent on situational factors. One approach that could be more manageable is "shoot / assess" training and procedures, teaching ways to quickly consider if you need to shoot again.

But to answer your question, instead of writing a far too long post: I think the best approach to guns is that they are tools made to kill, and any procedures or plans that involves firing them should be made as if they are just that.

Trump is like Belushi in the Animal House food fight scene. He literally starts the ruckus and then exits stage right in the middle of it. And now comes back and does a sad walk through the wreckage the he himself is responsible for.

Brilliant really.

Those guys looked a little too old to be that drunk during the day.

Trump voters. lol

I support the idea that if a cop is forced to use his gun due to an imminent threat, that he should 'shoot to kill' and not to wound or disable.

The problem is that what is and was an imminent threat, as per that prescription of days gone by, has drifted horrendously.

An imminent threat used to mean, and should mean 'an identified imminent threat that if not addressed at that moment could result in death to the officer or innocents'.

Instead it now means 'a threat that has not yet presented but that an officer fears may present if he does not take action now to prevent that future threat'.

Sorry but yes, the cops should be forced to FIRST SEE the actual threat and not kill based on their fear of one incoming.

In the case of the cop shooting the man 7 times in the back, that appears to be an instance where he should not have shot at all but where putting a warning shot in his leg was an option that almost certainly would have ended the incident and put the innocents nearby (kids in car) at far less risk and it would have put the cop at no more risk in doing so.