Why would you want this job . Why you need to buy your own body camera?

She needs to be arrested and charged and this cop needs to get a commendation.

This is exactly why all cops need to have body camera's as they protect BOTH parties.

I've had worse in retail. Minus the harassment allegation.

Seriously though, body cameras should be one of those things that are trivial at this point. They have no downside (unless you're a cop who doesn't want his actions on the record), but they have a positive impact on almost everything. I'd have to dig it up but I'm sure I was reading about how even the simple act of saying "I'm recording right now" has been reported to have a general calming effect on police interactions. The officer knows the person can't lie as much and vice versa, and just people in general tend not to want to be recorded behaving their worst.

I seen this on social media. The person is toxic, and those people come with the territory. You should see how toxic people behave when they don't get what they want from a customer service rep. The type of insults is almost irrelevant. They are purposely saying the cruelest thing they can think of.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/27/u....co/YeaIPDLEni

Update on old lady being beaten up, the cops, of course, thought it was hilarious.

arrested for what?

This is an interesting case from Italy. Seems like if uniformed police approached these kids none of this would have happened.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56996545

Dumb kids walking around in a foreign city with a knife in their pocket buying aspirin.
It's a shame someone had to die because of these knuckleheads.
Also a shame it's another death in the drug war.

What a weird story.

The dealer (middle man) calles the cops after the kids tried to get their money back.
Cops show up undercover without a weapon (against protocol).

I imagine the kids are telling the truth about the officer not identifying himself.

feel bad for the kid who is facing life in prison in a foreign country for helping conceal the weapon .

They probably did identify themselves as police but can't fault someone for not believing them.

That is a strange story, and so much had to go wrong to get to that point. Bringing the murder weapon back to your hotel room is just taking taking stupid to another level

I remember being around that age and visiting italy and buying hash. The cops are super serious there with drugs and while we have all made mistakes as kids- confronting drug dealers armed with knives in foreign countries is pretty up there on the dumb charts

The fact he brought the knife with him from the US can't have played well in court.

I find it fascinating that the same people who don't think citizens have an inherent right to vote think they shouldn't act in their own best interests when sitting on a jury.

It's as if that group of individuals are about as entitled and dumb as any Karen video you can find on the youtubes.

The HIVs of the world will never see any authority figure as doing anything wrong. Ever. They can't. They aren't wired that way.

The problem I have with the crowbar situation is that there were other units literally seconds away. I don't think that cop needed to shoot. I'm sure it was justified but why didn't he keep retreating for a few more seconds ?

I think they just don't like to back up. It makes them feel like they're not in control or something. But it's a smart move when someone has a knife or blunt object and you have a gun and don't want to shoot them unless you absolutely need to.

The 21 foot drills are when both parties are standing. If the cop is already moving back he can react much quicker and move laterally easier. But....it's easy on paper.

Oh yeah, with the units right there I agree it's inexcusable but when you've pissed your pants from fear like this cop I could see how his other senses were maybe impaired.

Edit: he has no business being a police officer. Either he's a scaredy cat or he intentionally confronted the crazy guy one on one to murder him.

This is what I mean about having some sympathy for the cops in these positions. The cop clearly has no idea what to do other than unload the clip. I think a lot of people would pull the trigger in that situation. Legally I'm sure it'll be seen as a clean shoot.

The thing is that it's another case where we can take a step back and look at the scenario. No bystanders at risk, backup on the way, crazy ill looking homeless man, cumbersome weapon, tons of space around them. The cop only has hold out a few moments longer and everyone could walk away.

And as usual, that's all well and good in the abstract, but we can replay the tapes from around the world where we can be almost certain that this particular case could've been dealt with very differently.

Yup. Training is the thing really. And they're taught to shoot. There's a video of a lady cop running around her vehicle several times before finally shooting once and not killing the guy. I don't know why unloading the clip is a thing in some places and one shot is a thing in others. Again, I assume training.

You are right. I reacted hyperbolically to her unjust language. It is not arrestable though. Perhaps a secondary fine would be appropriate but I even that is probably a stretch for just bad language.

That said there are reports now that she left that scene and filed a police report on this officer that was full of these lies accusing him on threatening and abuse and if that is true she should be charged for that.

A Haha.

You mean like the mayors who oversee the police departments?

I'm a big champion of Democratic leadership in these cities. I advocate strongly for police unions too.

A better world would be one where the police had body cams as standard and that was the type of woman they sat around laughing about.

I used to train my staff, as we operated in many 'tourist' areas that in these tourist spots cops are generally told to turn a blind eye to most simple drug buys as the last thing the communities typically want to be known for is being super harsh in cracking down on this and lots of tourists arrested.

If they are the type to enjoy drugs when on vacation most will just go to a friendly destination.

But what that policy creates is a situation where cops then turn to shaking down the tourists for EASY money.

I would tell my employees that 'IF you buy drugs from a random person or at a club with a recommendation from a bouncer, it almost certainly will NOT be drugs (aspirin) and you will likely be confronted by a cop shortly after you complete the buy'.

They report you to the cop, who then shows up threatens to arrest you, but then opens the door to this all going away if you give them $X dollars. The cops walked one of my high school buds to the Bank Machine and made him max his daily withdrawal limit on his Bank Card and Credit Card and then let him go.

I am sure this is what was happening here. The drug dealer sold them fake drugs and was about to speed dial the cops to get them to come get them, and instead he got robbed.

The cops show up, not armed, not on duty, ready to shake them down and for even more serious than just buying drugs (robbery) and it goes bad.

I would bet every dime I have on this being the case here. Everything makes sense under that take.

I think IHIV's position is better summed up that while he might agree the authority figure did something wrong he tends to look at thru the lens of 'what did the other person do that lead the authority figure to do that wrong'.

So even in the case where a cop has no legal right to demand ID, he would argue that 'if the person just complied this would not have escalated' thus it was the other persons fault and not the cops.

Saying George Floyd, the crowd, Floyd's dealer, and Derek Chauvin did something wrong aren't mutually exclusive positions.

Majority of the cases y'all cite, the police didn't really do anything wrong, though.

Policing, like any other dangerous activity, has bad outcomes, that doesn't necessarily mean somebody did something wrong.

Cases being discussed:
73 year old dementia patient has arm broken, cops find it hilarious and leave her to suffer
Cop kneels on man's neck until he's dead for allegedly using a fake twenty
Man gunned down for shopping in Walmart
Crazy homeless guy takes a full clip for getting too close to an officer who's backup was seconds away

But nothing necessarily went wrong.