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05-29-2023 , 08:12 PM
There are needles everywhere on the ground in Phiadelphia. You can't walk without stepping onto one, you also cannot walk around the city without getting shot and murdered.

What is going on in Philadelphia?
Don't they have enough money to fix this problem? Instead they put up gambling machines in convenient stores now. As if they didn't have enough problems already.

The central library? Plastered with needles all around and shut down I guess. It's crazy just crazy.

Watch this video, I guarantee you have never seen anything like it before. Why is that? They say Fentanyl is one reason but I think there must be more to explain this.

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05-29-2023 , 08:20 PM
I assume you have never been to Philadelphia. Philadelphia does indeed feel more dangerous than some other cities in the Northeastern United States, but Kensington Avenue isn't remotely representative of the city as a whole. But it is a notorious drug track. There are plenty of monetizers who fish for clicks on youtube by driving along Kensington with a camera rolling.
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05-29-2023 , 08:45 PM
This is crazy and sad to see what is going on.

There is NO amount of money & capital that will solve this problem if society won't take a stand against it.

The people that are addicts need to be given a choice:

A). Stop using and get help. They can go to a rural camp/farm where they detox. After detox, they will stay there for 90 or 120 days and be given guidance and work skills. Learn agriculture, cooking, light assembly, factory work, warehousing...whatever.

After they are detoxed, and pass through the guidance period, they get placement in a rural area (away from ready supply of narcotics, away from their family & prior friends that may have got them into the bad environment) and an area with jobs for which they have trained. They are guided into housing....healthcare & counseling. Put them on "probation" for a 3 year period. Get them in NA.

If they stay clean, work the program for the time frame, they a graduation certificate & references, then they are free to move wherever they want.

There is a tremendous shortage of workers in this country. We need to bring back manufacturing. We need to produce more stuff of ALL sorts here in the USA.

If the people who can detox and get out of the bad environments, make a living wage, be giving guidance and support, then they stand a GOOD chance of staying clean and breaking the cycle.

Have the government get it started. Work hand & hand with industry. Bring in social & religious groups to provide guidance and support.

Laud praise upon those who make it, get clean, stay clean, and start contributing to society. Shame & punish those that don't.


B). If they don't take help, then they are punished severely.
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05-29-2023 , 08:46 PM
@ Rococo I read now 1 in 7 libraries got shut down. The others shortened their opening hours and their staff.
They don't have enough money in Philly it seems like.

The situation actually worsened a lot during covid they say in this video. Shops got all vandalized (in this area) and now you can't even walk there without getting shot (and step on a needle). There is an extreme likelihood that you'll get murdered just by walking there the locals say in this video. In the comments you can read locals talking about it, they say those are recent developments. That means it wasn't like that before. The situation is frightening and unheard of imo even for Kensingtons standards. It shouldn't be like that in America or anywhere and it wasn't before. Even in Skid Row you won't get murdered by just walking around there, even though you could. Here they say the chances are extremely high now. I have not been to Phiadelphia and wouldn't step a foot in it after seeing this.


'Are Philadelphia libraries struggling to stay open and short hundreds of workers?

Philadelphia libraries are struggling to stay open and short hundreds of workers. The library needs to fill more than 300 positions, meaning it could be a year before service is normalized across the city. Even under ordinary circumstances, Philadelphia's library system is fragile.05.09.2022
https://www.inquirer.com › news
Free Library of Philadelphia hours still lacking amid staff shortage'
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05-29-2023 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
Shops got all vandalized (in this area) and now you can't even walk there without getting shot (and step on a needle). There is an extreme likelihood that you'll get murdered just by walking there the locals say in this video.
Simple math should tell you that this can't possibly be true.
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05-29-2023 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
After they are detoxed, and pass through the guidance period, they get placement in a rural area.
People in rural areas are going to love this plan.

Also, narcotics addiction is by no means just an urban problem in the United States.
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05-29-2023 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Simple math should tell you that this can't possibly be true.
I know, this didn't sound right.
Unless the homicide rate is off the hook now. That's what I wanted to look at next. The locals are all armed in this neighbourhood though probably and know what to avoid.

This isn't just a clickbait video. He goes in there and films some crazy stuff while putting himself in danger
You and me are from big cities but our subway system is clean compared to this one. The commuters are stepping or at least see tons of needles every day.

Watch some of the video and tell me that is normal for any city or if you have ever seen such conditions anywhere.

Last edited by washoe; 05-29-2023 at 09:14 PM.
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05-29-2023 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
This is crazy and sad to see what is going on.

There is NO amount of money & capital that will solve this problem if society won't take a stand against it.

The people that are addicts need to be given a choice:

A). Stop using and get help. They can go to a rural camp/farm where they detox. After detox, they will stay there for 90 or 120 days and be given guidance and work skills. Learn agriculture, cooking, light assembly, factory work, warehousing...whatever.

After they are detoxed, and pass through the guidance period, they get placement in a rural area (away from ready supply of narcotics, away from their family & prior friends that may have got them into the bad environment) and an area with jobs for which they have trained. They are guided into housing....healthcare & counseling. Put them on "probation" for a 3 year period. Get them in NA.

If they stay clean, work the program for the time frame, they a graduation certificate & references, then they are free to move wherever they want.

There is a tremendous shortage of workers in this country. We need to bring back manufacturing. We need to produce more stuff of ALL sorts here in the USA.

If the people who can detox and get out of the bad environments, make a living wage, be giving guidance and support, then they stand a GOOD chance of staying clean and breaking the cycle.

Have the government get it started. Work hand & hand with industry. Bring in social & religious groups to provide guidance and support.

Laud praise upon those who make it, get clean, stay clean, and start contributing to society. Shame & punish those that don't.


B). If they don't take help, then they are punished severely.

lmao you’re gonna drop inner city junkies out in montana? and that’s gonna go well??
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05-29-2023 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
People in rural areas are going to love this plan.

Also, narcotics addiction is by no means just an urban problem in the United States.
Everything you say is certainly true....BUT

Most of the people with the severe addictions are in urban areas. Getting them OUT of their area is a key to successful rehab. They can avoid bad influences and bad places more easily in an country environment several hundred+ miles away from where they came out of.

It is also easier to have a 500 acre campus in a rural area vs. an urban one.

It is also easier to have training in a rural environment...you can easily place barns, workshops, plantings, etc. in the rural areas.

There is probably no perfect spot for this. HOWEVER, society needs to take a stand, and something needs to be done. Clearly the current policy is a disaster and not working.
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05-29-2023 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
HOWEVER, society needs to take a stand, and something needs to be done. Clearly the current policy is a disaster and not working.
You could just de-criminalise drugs, and it would solve most of these problems. It's kind of been clear for a long time that drugs have obliterated the opposition in the war on drugs, and that status quo is not going to change.
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05-29-2023 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
Everything you say is certainly true....BUT

Most of the people with the severe addictions are in urban areas. Getting them OUT of their area is a key to successful rehab. They can avoid bad influences and bad places more easily in an country environment several hundred+ miles away from where they came out of.

It is also easier to have a 500 acre campus in a rural area vs. an urban one.

It is also easier to have training in a rural environment...you can easily place barns, workshops, plantings, etc. in the rural areas.

There is probably no perfect spot for this. HOWEVER, society needs to take a stand, and something needs to be done. Clearly the current policy is a disaster and not working.
Fent is all over the rural areas. like, thats what its known for. and really its kinda the point of it.
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05-29-2023 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
Most of the people with the severe addictions are in urban areas.
Are you sure this is true. These maps make me doubt it.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s..._poisoning.htm

https://wallethub.com/edu/drug-use-by-state/35150
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05-29-2023 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
hes technically right that more addict total reside in urban areas. but as your stats show, its higher per capita in rural areas.

really makes you think tho...why are deadly drugs inundating so many rural communities and killing poor whites (who have no prospects). ahh well, proly just a coincidence. a coincidence like crack in the 80s.
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05-29-2023 , 10:11 PM
Elections have consequences. The people of Philadelphia have the exact city they voted for. Their current Soros DA won a re-eleciton handily in 2021 on a platform of keeping drug addicts and criminals on the streets and waging a war against the police. And the results are exactly what one would expect.

The way I see it, if you live in Philadelphia and don't like how the democratically elected govt is running things, then move. And if you dont live there, and don't like what you see, then stay the F away.
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05-29-2023 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
hes technically right that more addict total reside in urban areas. but as your stats show, its higher per capita in rural areas.

really makes you think tho...why are deadly drugs inundating so many rural communities and killing poor whites (who have no prospects). ahh well, proly just a coincidence. a coincidence like crack in the 80s.
Is it because substance abuse tends to be a bigger problem in poverty stricken areas in general, for a plethora of well-documented reasons? Or is it because the Freemasons got together with the Illuminati and Soros and Bush and Trump and the Clintons and Epstein and the CIA to kill off Billy Bob and Mary Jo living in some trailer park in Bum****, Arkansas?
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05-29-2023 , 10:25 PM
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Is it because substance abuse tends to be a bigger problem in poverty stricken areas in general, for a plethora of well-documented reasons? Or is it because the Freemasons got together with the Illuminati and Soros and Bush and Trump and the Clintons and Epstein and the CIA to kill off Billy Bob and Mary Jo living in some trailer park in Bum****, Arkansas?
what are these well documented reasons?

bc well, the we know why crack flooded poverty stricken inner city areas in the 80s. but maybe Fent is flooding poverty stricken rural areas for different reasons?
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05-29-2023 , 10:40 PM
The only Philly related tragedy was call at the end of the Super Bowl. **** the nfl’s golden boy Mahommes.
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05-29-2023 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
what are these well documented reasons?
manual labor --> back pain --> docs give out opioids --> patients get addicted, move on to street drugs
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05-30-2023 , 02:08 AM
Is washoe armed with all he needs?

Spoiler:
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05-30-2023 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
You could just de-criminalise drugs, and it would solve most of these problems. It's kind of been clear for a long time that drugs have obliterated the opposition in the war on drugs, and that status quo is not going to change.
Vancouver is trying that and its not working as folks still need to buy the drugs and they commit crimes to do it. You need a system were your provide safe drugs and folks that commit crimes that are addicted have a choice jail or mandatory rehab
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05-30-2023 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Fent is all over the rural areas. like, thats what its known for. and really its kinda the point of it.
Unfortunately, that is also common, but it is more dispersed in rural areas, you don't typically see tons of needles on the ground, with hordes of zombies shuffling around. Some rural areas are worse off than others too.

Make no mistake, if there are rural junkies, they will ALSO be eligible to go to the strict rehab.

White, black, red, yellow, race makes no difference, EVERYONE will be eligible to go!

If this is not acceptable to society, then legalize everything.

Have the government sell & disburse it. $1 per "fix". If you want it, you get it from the government in a central location. If people want to throw their lives away, that is fine, but don't drag down the rest of society with them.

Here in Detroit, drugs have DECIMATED many, Many, MANY neighborhoods, destroyed thousands of businesses, 10's of thousands of buildings, hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of lives.

Drugs are truly a scourge on a society.
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05-31-2023 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997

It is also easier to have a 500 acre campus in a rural area vs. an urban one.

It is also easier to have training in a rural environment...you can easily place barns, workshops, plantings, etc. in the rural areas.
This must explain why rural America is such an economic powerhouse and not at all a subsidized hell hole that can't even support itself, much less people who live in other places that need help.
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05-31-2023 , 08:00 PM
yes as opposed to urban America that people are fleeing. Hmmmmmmmm.
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05-31-2023 , 08:05 PM
California population just keeps dropping. Shocking.
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05-31-2023 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
Make no mistake, if there are rural junkies, they will ALSO be eligible to go to the strict rehab.
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Rural junkies and really any poor rural person have to go to more urban areas for treatment because medical care is nonexistent in these crap holes. Why would a doctor or really anybody with a job want to live in rural areas? The reason rural America has such high rates of drug abuse, alcoholism and suicide is because nobody wants to live there. Might as well send drug addicts to the moon to get treatment.
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