Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!)

02-12-2023 , 10:42 AM
so there you go, you can get banned for not not beliveing in the narrative of:

- Postle
-Holtzclaw
-Central Park 5
-Julian Assange
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 10:43 AM
I used to live in Columbia and was living there when the murder took place. The janitor who found the body and gave the false statements which he later recanted was my friend's boss.

When they were arrested my friend was like "yeah the dumbasses who killed that guy bragged about it to some friends and got arrested".

Then later on the case started getting national attention and it became pretty clear that Chuck Erikson was just nuts. Ferguson's dad decked out his car with a "free Ryan Ferguson" wrap and I used to see him playing pickleball while I was playing tennis.

After Ryan was freed I saw him once at a bar I'm pretty sure although my memory of that is hazy. The whole story is nuts. The prosecutor who coerced the false testimony is now a judge which is the most messed up part.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 10:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rococo
I honestly don't remember the discussion this way. I'm sure there were a couple of partisan cheerleaders who thought Mueller was going to be Trump's kryptonite, but I don't recall that being the mainstream view. I never thought that Mueller's report was going to bring down Trump. The actual report was in line with what I expected.
Interesting. I wasn't posting in this forum in those days as Wookie and Jman would have banned me quickly, but that's definitely the impression that I had about the liberal view. "In Mueller we trust" was a thing.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 10:52 AM
yea that muller or mueller.
Mueller = miller in german btw. and is the among the most commen names. Like miller.. must be a german dude.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I used to live in Columbia and was living there when the murder took place. The janitor who found the body and gave the false statements which he later recanted was my friend's boss.

When they were arrested my friend was like "yeah the dumbasses who killed that guy bragged about it to some friends and got arrested".

Then later on the case started getting national attention and it became pretty clear that Chuck Erikson was just nuts. Ferguson's dad decked out his car with a "free Ryan Ferguson" wrap and I used to see him playing pickleball while I was playing tennis.

After Ryan was freed I saw him once at a bar I'm pretty sure although my memory of that is hazy. The whole story is nuts. The prosecutor who coerced the false testimony is now a judge which is the most messed up part.

thats crazy that you saw him... So the threw the crazy guy under the bus and the prosceuter is now a judge, incredible...
In the central part 5 case they threw the crazy guy under the bus too! that must be a thing.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 11:07 AM
I mean from Kevin Crane's (the prosecutor turned judge)-- they really did have the culprits because he had a confession and who voluntarily confesses to a crime they didn't commit?

Lots of people do though unfortunately..
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 11:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by washoe
for the record, these anti vaxxers had a point which you didn't understand, right?
Nah. They kept changing their messaging as one theory after another of theirs kept failing with their bad cherry picked data. Once in a while I would do a timeline of their theories for them - that always cheered them up. Many used even worse sources for information than you, which is kind of impressive. Some tossed in really wild ones like vitamin D and that the weather was the issue. Horse paste was a thing for many of them as well (good for a shiny coat). I did encourage you to post there years ago, but you never did, which was a shame as I know I would have been entertained to see you washoe that thread as many of the other anti-vaxxers were trying to be serious about their theories. Alas, that never happened.

You need to understand that even if one of them was somewhat correct about some aspect it does not matter, because they were so deeply wrong nearly all the time about everything. Thus, if the word changes in a way where they can retroactively say they got something partially right - it does not matter, since they had no real gifted insight and the bulk of what they said was complete rubbish, kind of like nearly all the YouTube spam you inflict here at times. They always left out all the times they were wrong. Hey, the final score in the Super Bowl will be 28-24. If it is - I will say I have super powers. If it is not - I will just never mention the prediction again. Easy peasy. That is the type of insight that thread was filled with.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 11:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by washoe
so there you go, you can get banned for not not beliveing in the narrative of:

- Postle
-Holtzclaw
-Central Park 5
-Julian Assange
I would be shocked if you got banned for holding a non-mainstream view and not for awful, disruptive posting on the topics. But I would also be quite surprised if you'd accurately recognize the difference.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ganstaman
I would be shocked if you got banned for holding a non-mainstream view and not for awful, disruptive posting on the topics. But I would also be quite surprised if you'd accurately recognize the difference.
There was no reason for TD to ban Washoe's thread on Holtzclaw and the only reason he did it was because he presumably feels like no miscarriages of justice ever happen in American courts.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
There was no reason for TD to ban Washoe's thread on Holtzclaw and the only reason he did it was because he presumably feels like no miscarriages of justice ever happen in American courts.

Maybe it was KS. Idk. But they felt like they had to protect BLM and the victims, who imo were all lying. I would agree to the call if the victims were indeed victims which they are not imo. So there is that.

Here are new developments:
2 alleged victims retracted thier statements, he received 64 years for one of them. All exposed as lies now.

They railroaded him here is the proof. (one of many)




if anyone wants to look into this go to: The UnTold Story — HoltzclawTrial.com


or watch this: CRTV: Daniel in the Den | The truth about Holtzclaw (Parts 1 and 2) - YouTube
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ganstaman
I would be shocked if you got banned for holding a non-mainstream view and not for awful, disruptive posting on the topics. But I would also be quite surprised if you'd accurately recognize the difference.

what really matters is the issue itself, which you failed to recognize.
and that is one of the worst injustices ever. the proscecuter retired after this as a hero. lmoa. look at the blatant errors she made, you cant even call them errors it was fabricating evidence so manipulation. the proscecuter should be in jail for rigging the case.


do you see this report there above? that is prove that she fabricated evidence, there 64 years for nothing/lies. at least in 2 witnesses. whats up with that?

and maybe you do not even care that someone is sitting in jail for life who got railroaded and is innocent.
I think you really do not care, and you also believe something like that could never happen to you...

Last edited by washoe; 02-12-2023 at 12:53 PM.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
There was no reason for TD to ban Washoe's thread on Holtzclaw and the only reason he did it was because he presumably feels like no miscarriages of justice ever happen in American courts.

Actually you might be right it might have been TD.
Because KS knows they sue you for millions in the US if they can and they are not afraid to make stuff up to get to the money.


The main accuser Ligons is here name, I think, is now a millionaire and gets invited to Oprah imo. She was broke before.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by washoe
and that is one of the worst injustices ever.
don't think it was me that closed that thread. I am not sure there is a way to find out either.

HOWEVER....... why did the US Supreme Court refuse to hear the appeal? The justices were all in on the conspiracy too?

/fails to remember to Not Feed The Trolls
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Spew
don't think it was me that closed that thread. I am not sure there is a way to find out either.

HOWEVER....... why did the US Supreme Court refuse to hear the appeal? The justices were all in on the conspiracy too?

/fails to remember to Not Feed The Trolls
You have to have grounds for an appeal. Courts don't typically just grant appeals because they think the jury got it wrong but instead appeals are granted because some issue of law was decided incorrectly. This shouldn't be something that needs explaining.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by washoe
and maybe you do not even care that someone is sitting in jail for life who got railroaded and is innocent.
I think you really do not care, and you also believe something like that could never happen to you...
We were talking about why you got banned, not about the case itself. Are you not able to separate the two?
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
02-12-2023 , 04:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Interesting. I wasn't posting in this forum in those days as Wookie and Jman would have banned me quickly, but that's definitely the impression that I had about the liberal view. "In Mueller we trust" was a thing.
There is a difference between what you may have seen posted by low info people on social media, and what people who follow politics closely were saying on this forum.

Mueller is an inherently cautious person. And he wasn't closely aligned with the partisan politics of either party.

It was easy to predict that his report would reflect only the conclusions that he thought were 100% supported with indisputable evidence.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
04-29-2023 , 08:37 PM
Going to see a concert by musician Caroline Rose tonight. Obviously born female and retains a traditionally feminine name, but an article in the local free Weekly referred to Caroline as "they" throughout the article with no explanation. I assumed non-binary identification at that point. Checking out the Instagram page today, and it lists preferred pronouns as "they/she/it". This was the first time I ever saw "it" listed as a pronoun for anyone, but it gives me some validation that I wasn't being subconsciously derogatory by suggesting that as a pronoun for the non-binary (I already knew I wasn't being deliberately derogatory.)

Looking forward to the show!

https://www.instagram.com/carolinerosemuzak/
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
04-29-2023 , 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I used to live in Columbia
I call.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
07-08-2023 , 09:50 PM
centrist liberal dems are about the most edgelord thing possible. that its been normalized as the proper way for "serious people' to think is a testament to how amazing USA propagand is.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
07-08-2023 , 10:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor
centrist liberal dems are about the most edgelord thing possible. that its been normalized as the proper way for "serious people' to think is a testament to how amazing USA propagand is.
I get the whole "the centrists are the real extremists" argument but the semantics of it all won't allow to me accept it.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
07-08-2023 , 10:30 PM
Caitlin Johnstone had a nice piece to that effect a few years back-- “Centrists” Are Violent Extremists
As the Trump administration comes apart at the seams and the Dempublican party marches us into ever-increasing cold war escalations, I look back on my young career in political commentary, on where it’s been and where it seems to be going.

From this vantagepoint I suppose thus far it could all be summed up as one long exchange in which I say what I reckon is going on in the world, and my fellow lefties rush in to say “Shh! Don’t say that! How do you expect to win over the centrists saying things like that?”

This has always puzzled me. I guess the idea is that if woke progressives tone-police ourselves extra carefully and keep sharing our ideas nice and sweetly, eventually establishment Democrats will turn around and go, “Well gosh darn, I guess everything I’ve been taught about my country and how it works is completely wrong after all! Let me go cut the cable, cancel my subscription to the Washington Post and start working on a grassroots presidential campaign for Ajamu Baraka!”

Or something like that; I’m not really sure how they imagine it would work to be honest. Do these people have any idea just how pervasively indoctrinated consumers of mainstream media are? Do they have any idea how big an ideological gap there is between anti-war socialism and the neoliberal neoconservative omnicidal death cult known as centrism? Do they truly expect that massive gap to be bridged, that ingrained-since-birth propaganda brain box shattered, by polite yet compelling arguments?
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
07-09-2023 , 09:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Caitlin Johnstone had a nice piece to that effect a few years back-- “Centrists” Are Violent Extremists
As the Trump administration comes apart at the seams and the Dempublican party marches us into ever-increasing cold war escalations, I look back on my young career in political commentary, on where it’s been and where it seems to be going.

From this vantagepoint I suppose thus far it could all be summed up as one long exchange in which I say what I reckon is going on in the world, and my fellow lefties rush in to say “Shh! Don’t say that! How do you expect to win over the centrists saying things like that?”

This has always puzzled me. I guess the idea is that if woke progressives tone-police ourselves extra carefully and keep sharing our ideas nice and sweetly, eventually establishment Democrats will turn around and go, “Well gosh darn, I guess everything I’ve been taught about my country and how it works is completely wrong after all! Let me go cut the cable, cancel my subscription to the Washington Post and start working on a grassroots presidential campaign for Ajamu Baraka!”

Or something like that; I’m not really sure how they imagine it would work to be honest. Do these people have any idea just how pervasively indoctrinated consumers of mainstream media are? Do they have any idea how big an ideological gap there is between anti-war socialism and the neoliberal neoconservative omnicidal death cult known as centrism? Do they truly expect that massive gap to be bridged, that ingrained-since-birth propaganda brain box shattered, by polite yet compelling arguments?
I am not familiar with this person or their band of progressivism, but if you want to make a compelling case for modern progressivism, can you at least show me some actual progress. Can you make the crime rate lower? Can you decrease homelessness? Can you make race relations better? Can you actually improve mental health? Can you make the world less beholden to fossil fuels, instead of more beholden? etc. etc. etc. My main gripe with modern progressivism is that it however it is supposed to work in theory, in practice it invariably sucks and makes everything worse.

Is this progress? Everyone has mental health issues? If that is progress I'll stick to centrism, thank you very much.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
07-09-2023 , 09:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunyain
I am not familiar with this person or their band of progressivism, but if you want to make a compelling case for modern progressivism, can you at least show me some actual progress. Can you make the crime rate lower? Can you decrease homelessness? Can you make race relations better? Can you actually improve mental health? Can you make the world less beholden to fossil fuels, instead of more beholden? etc. etc. etc. My main gripe with modern progressivism is that it however it is supposed to work in theory, in practice it invariably sucks and makes everything worse.

Is this progress? Everyone has mental health issues? If that is progress I'll stick to centrism, thank you very much.

Caitlin Johnstone is a leftwing conspiracy theorist and an Australian, so when she calls herself a progressive don't confuse her with the typical sort of American progressive. She eschews those people for the most part. But she definitely is a leftist. She can be aggravating at times but for the most part she's one of the most correct people out in the public sphere commentating on political issues.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
07-09-2023 , 09:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Caitlin Johnstone is a leftwing conspiracy theorist and an Australian, so when she calls herself a progressive don't confuse her with the typical sort of American progressive. She eschews those people for the most part. But she definitely is a leftist. She can be aggravating at times but for the most part she's one of the most correct people out in the public sphere commentating on political issues.
Do you think she could point to any actual results in the real world that her particular brand of progressivism makes things better? I mean, finding faults in any social/political system is the easy part. The hard part is coming up with something better. I am not saying don't try. But if your efforts are predictably creating dystopias like The Tenderloin or Southside of Chicago, maybe it is time for some re-evaluation.
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote
07-09-2023 , 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Caitlin Johnstone had a nice piece to that effect a few years back-- “Centrists” Are Violent Extremists
As the Trump administration comes apart at the seams and the Dempublican party marches us into ever-increasing cold war escalations, I look back on my young career in political commentary, on where it’s been and where it seems to be going.

From this vantagepoint I suppose thus far it could all be summed up as one long exchange in which I say what I reckon is going on in the world, and my fellow lefties rush in to say “Shh! Don’t say that! How do you expect to win over the centrists saying things like that?”

This has always puzzled me. I guess the idea is that if woke progressives tone-police ourselves extra carefully and keep sharing our ideas nice and sweetly, eventually establishment Democrats will turn around and go, “Well gosh darn, I guess everything I’ve been taught about my country and how it works is completely wrong after all! Let me go cut the cable, cancel my subscription to the Washington Post and start working on a grassroots presidential campaign for Ajamu Baraka!”

Or something like that; I’m not really sure how they imagine it would work to be honest. Do these people have any idea just how pervasively indoctrinated consumers of mainstream media are? Do they have any idea how big an ideological gap there is between anti-war socialism and the neoliberal neoconservative omnicidal death cult known as centrism? Do they truly expect that massive gap to be bridged, that ingrained-since-birth propaganda brain box shattered, by polite yet compelling arguments?
damn she nails it
The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!) Quote

      
m