Wokeism was certainly a thing but without Fox news it would have remained mostly in the periphery and saw the Left eating mostly their own on the Left.



People need to understand that Advocacy is an Industry. There are people who profit very much from Advocacy and having a good foe to fight.

Over my lifetime we moved from a point where society was still dealing with many of the legacy abuses of the past but slowly and more quietly getting rid of them. The Left was generally on the side of correctness on matters and the extreme right had been shamed mostly in to silence. Abuses were still happening but every thing was moving in the right direction.


Advocates thus saw their power and need diminishing and a day when they might not be needed and wokeism was an attempt to whip up some passions by micro focus on certain things and to push the left into conflict with an ever willing far right and Fox news who need the war to get their base back into fight mode and off the sidelines.

Now advocates on both sides are making more money then ever by convincing people that today's society is worse than 60's America, a flat out falsehood.

This entire thing that we are living through is what is called a 'work'. A well executed plan for a few nefarious reasons.

Yeah, of course the snowflakish outrage of wokeism, PC or whatever is pure right wing rage manufacturing. Just this week some conservative yambag was complaining that they had a new Sesame Street puppet that was of Asian origin and how that’s wokeism. 90% of even Republican voters would probably watch that puppet and not know they are supposed to be mad without these Fox commentators complaining about it.

There is definitely a snow flake political and activist angle to wokeism rage and no one should deny it. Elements on the Far right are definitely using it.

That does not mean that those on the left are pure and innocent as others may be motivated to present.

Like with most things the right are taking a real issue and amplifying it and activist left definitely was busy fanning issues to out and go after people based on historical transgressions and sins (Al Franken, Neil deGrasse Tyson and an endless list more), based on scouring history for offenses.

Another example of people on airplanes behaving terribly as man punches female flight attendant in the face breaking her nose.

These people should get a life time ban for flying, full stop.

And some jail time for assault.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...board-n1284273

My 'Dejoy Board' analysis excerpted from the Trump thread.

Tech billionaire allegedly kept spreadsheet of 5,000 women he had sex with


Whitefish, Montana, is known for fly fishing and hiking trails studded with yellow aspen trees. But after Silicon Valley billionaire Michael Goguen took up residence in the Rocky Mountain town several years ago, he transformed it into his private fiefdom: a dark banana republic where he allegedly controls local law enforcement — and a “harem” of young women.

The bombshell allegations, which also include claims of Goguen ordering his security chief to kill detractors, are contained in a lengthy civil complaint recently filed in United States District Court for the District of Montana.

According to the court papers, Goguen, 57, employs hundreds of residents in companies he controls, and owns a series of luxury “safe houses” where he takes dozens of young women for sex. He has a spreadsheet documenting his sexual encounters with 5,000 women, and even outfitted a local bar he owns with a basement “boom boom” room, which features a stripper pole. The underground enclave is allegedly used “to maintain women for the purpose of committing illicit sexual activity.”...



The complaint, which seeks more than $800 million in damages, was filed by four former employees who set up Goguen’s Amyntor Group LLC, a Whitefish-based security contractor that had clients around the world....

But things came to a crashing halt in 2016 when his former mistress Amber Baptiste, an exotic dancer from Canada, accused him of “constant sexual abuse,” including “countless hours of forced sodomy,” court papers say. He also demanded that she refer to him as “king” and “emperor,” according to the filings. In 2012, Baptiste said, she underwent surgery for a ruptured anal canal after Goguen “forcibly sodomized her and left her bleeding and alone on the floor of a hotel room in a foreign country,” ...

A former Marine and alleged CIA operative, he once headed up the Amyntor Group — and is now the lead plaintiff in the civil suit filed against Goguen in February and amended in September.

Although Marshall, now 51, had been recruited by Goguen in 2013 to set up the private security contracting business, he alleges in his lawsuit that he soon became a reluctant fixer for the billionaire, arranging the purchase of luxury homes and vehicles for members of his harem, and spying on and intimidating his enemies...

Women who tried to complain to police about Goguen’s alleged sexual assaults were met with unsympathetic law enforcement at the Flathead County Sheriff’s Department, some of whom were on Goguen’s payroll, according to court papers — which also allege that Goguen had set up a mechanism to listen in on police communications.

When one of those women told a local police officer that Goguen had allegedly sexually assaulted her, Marshall urged the officer to go to the FBI. But the investigation was quashed after Goguen wined and dined the cop, promising him luxury elk hunts in his private jet, ...

Goguen’s old accusers also pop up in the new suit.

According to the court papers, Goguen once brought his daughters and their teenage babysitter to Nash’s home, where he allegedly had sex with the babysitter in a cottage on the property, according to court filings. An outraged Nash called him a pedophile and reported him to local police “to no avail,” court papers say.

The papers also claim Goguen had sex with Nash’s wife as they were going through a divorce. Goguen allegedly had Nash followed by a private detective and paid for the wife’s legal expenses, “causing the divorce to be drawn out and having Nash incur more expenses,” ..

“This man has to be stopped,” said Bill Dial. The retired Whitefish police chief sued Goguen in December 2019 for alleged interference in his own investigation. “He’s a billionaire a la Harvey Weinstein and [Jeffrey] Epstein. There’s a lot of people in this community who know what he’s about and they’re afraid of him.”

I don't know what to make of this Goguen story. He sounds like a complete dirtbag, but it's hard to be 100% certain because the former friends and employees who are quoted in that story don't seem particularly credible either.

hard to gauge until more info comes out either supporting or denying the narrative but he definitely seems like a power abusing scumbag.

And power abusing scumbags often attract like minded people who hope they will remain on the right side of the power imbalance and then many complain they are victims and were wronged when they do not.

I know many (especially on the far left) believe that people without power (monetary assets) cannot be the purveyors of abuse and only those in positions of power can but that is simply not true. Cash ups the ability and scale but abuse can exist anywhere in the channel.

Can I suggest not trusting anyone with so much money and power?

In this case "When one of those women told a local police officer that Goguen had allegedly sexually assaulted her ..."

If it's true there was such an accusation then it needs to be investigated urgently.

Yes of course but us mere plebs, as you say, struggle to match the industrial scale without beign held to account for decades. Nor can we so easily corrupt the system.

Why aren’t they credible?

One of the guys pled guilty to blackmailing Goguen and the other guy was convicted of wire fraud and money laundering in connection with his work for Goguen. It doesn't mean they are lying, but it's pretty likely that these guys were Michael Cohen-level enablers before they turned on Goguen. Honestly, the fact that Goguen was a billionaire and apparently was relying on guys like this is part of what makes me think some or all of the allegations may be true.

I don't disagree chez. Magnitude and scale matter.

Does not change my point though.

Laws are for thee but not for me!


Is there anyone here who would not accept the rake of a couple hundred bucks to make huge gains, often in the millions of dollars?

It is good to be the law makers and be able to write the punishment for your own offenses.

The House and Senate often exempt themselves from the laws they pass.

I don't know if it is still true, but for a long time Congresspeople could pay less than minimum-wage to their own staff.

They also exempted themselves from the Affordable Care Act.

welcome to the future: the Jetson



https://www.jetsonaero.com/

costs: 90k made in sweden

Cop gets 20 year sentence for raping his dog, and other disgusting things: https://www.ktbs.com/news/former-bos...25f96bf18.html

If he had raped his dog groomer instead of his dog, he probably would have gotten only about seven years.

This is both confused and false. The ACA doesn't require people to buy insurance through the insurance exchanges (which I think is what you meant by claiming that Congress exempted themselves from the ACA) - it only requires that they have health insurance, whether provided by their employer, the government, or by purchasing it individually. Members of Congress were not exempt from this requirement, but like most employees received it from their employer. Separately, the Grassley amendment of the ACA requires that all members of Congress have to purchase their health insurance through an health insurance exchange - a requirement that goes beyond that placed on other employees.

Thanks for the clarification!

Ah that blatantly false partisan lie takes me back.

This is so cool.

I have seen many companies working on this type of personal drone type Car/Helicopter hybrid. Did not realize their was a working model that people could actually buy.

Battery range makes this more of a toy than a vehicle at this point with 20 minutes air time for someone around my weight of 210lbs and fractionally more for manlets like the pilot in that video. I question if someone my height (6'4") could fit in it. Seems tight.

If we get that big jump in battery tech (magnitudes lighter with huge gains in range) that so much money is chasing that could really make these a reality as a commuter vehicle and it will be interesting to see how society manages that.

I can see in Rural communities some freedom given for personal use, but I do not see these flying around in cities with office towers and tall condos unless they have full AI navigation and a proven near zero accident rate. No way, I think we leave that to human error in population centres.

And I am not sure the safety measures are enough or sufficient. The sweet spot for flying these would also seem like the worst altitude for other safety reason.

I think the sweet spot for flying these in any community is just above the median roof top range. You don't need to fly over the highest buildings, as you can avoid them, but you don't want to be avoiding (swerving in and out) of most buildings so you need to be above most while avoiding the rest.

At that type of height a rocket fired parachute is of little use as you are not high enough for it to catch enough wind to slow your decent meaningfully, if at all. A race car like roll cage will only do so much if this falls from any height. You are all in on the redundant motor system not failing and if it does then I doubt the pilot survivors most times.

Still, I would definitely own one with better battery range.

Commuter vehicle lol. W/ AI, maybe.

BUT.....what a fun toy that would be