The TV show with Sgt. Schultz would have been a more interesting reference for a few reasons.

Did you actually watch Archie Bunker thru the wokester lens though?

A few years ago there was a live TV performance of an episode. They used the original script but put a warning in front that some offensive language would be used. Luckily, even Archie never used the N-word (AFAIK).
His preferred term for black people was usually "spades".

As long as they keep the farting in

When that movie was shown on US network TV, the scene eating beans was left in, but the farting noises were removed. It made no sense at all.

This kind of thing is likely to happen any time artistic works are edited for "modern sensibilities".

You missed my point. My point was there are competing considerations that have to be taken into account before you can confidently conclude that editing creative work to remove sensitive or offensive terms is a "good idea." Those other considerations include, but are not limited to:

1) Is the creative work endorsing the use of offensive terms or encouraging the use of offensive terms?
2) Would removing the terms change the meaning of the creative work?
3) Is understanding the context in which the terms are being used a sufficient palliative? Is the intended audience for the work old enough to appreciate the context?
4) Is the editing truly for the benefit of the reader, or is it after the fact whitewashing that is mainly intended to cast the author in a better light?
5) What would the author have wanted?

That's not a point. of course there are competing consideration

wtf?

Sanford and Son is an interesting example. Fred is the star of the show, but viewers are supposed to view Fred's bigotry as ridiculous. And there are several episodes in which Fred is forced to reckon with, and grudgingly expresses remorse for, his own bigotry.

I was responding to your post 3439, which seemed to focus on the quality of the proof, which wasn't my point.

That's not a point. of course there are competing consideration. True for concluding it's a bad idea as well. True if you conclude nothing at all. True of just about everything

Your polint is that this is not maths

I was mocking the idea of it being about proof.

Or any idea that there aren't competing consderations. Or no competing aims/values

I think we were talking past each other.

We struggle. You say things like

and then that I dont realise there's competing consderations

None of this could be much further from my views/approach.

Unsurprisingly, I believe that I communicate more clearly than you do. But I readily admit that other posters are in a better position to make that judgment than I am.

I think I gave him credit for other things than being well dressed. I actually like Don Lemon .

Yeah my right wing posts about how Gavin Newsom never delivered on universal health care and Trump should go to jail .

Keep lying

No doubt. Those assertions were totally wrong though. Being clear isn't everything

I could be much clearer if I saw the world more simply. But I still accept a great deal of the responsiblity.

woke mob was alive and well in the 60s. pretty clear euphemistic censorship.

Praise jim !
Sadly he got ban for it too …

Ps: I find it funny when u speak a word insult to someone u can’t hit that person back with fiat because it is « just words » but then again we accept banning words in books , song, etc . In return because it isn’t « just words » anymore ….

I wonder which one action is more violent .

You didn't really have to view it through any particular lense. Archie Bunker was oblivious to the fact that he was the dum-dum. It was an obvious portryal of racism being absurd. But Archie thought HE was the smart guy.

I don't think he used the n-word either. He had racial and ethnic slurs for everybody not like him though

I find your continual introduction of nuance into virtually every conversation you participate in to be rather annoying and against the very spirit of online debating.

Just wanted to share.

That woke mob became yuppies in the 80s and are now boomers who voted for Trump. So I guess there is hope afterall.

It's kinda funny that the theme song could still be sung by conservatives today and be pretty relevant. Things haven't really changed that much in 5 decades

Nothing new under the sun.

These days, singing the lyric "girls were girls and men were men" would probably get one branded "sexist", "homophobic*" and "transphobic*" all at once.

*two of the dumbest words ever to enter the vocabulary of otherwise intelligent people imo.