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Originally Posted by chillrob
I don't know that the age should necessarily be 18, but there has to be some age cutoff, maybe it should be lower.
But I think the age for working, drinking, voting, joining the military, making your own medical decisions, etc. Should all be the same. Either that or have some kind of test for legal maturity, but that would be tough to implement.
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Originally Posted by shortstacker
It's kinda dumb that a kid can get drafted at age 18, but can't legally buy alcohol until s/he is 21.
The kid apparently is mature enough to kill strangers in another country, but not mature enough to buy and drink a can of beer.
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Only ~20% of army recruits are over 21 and only ~10% of marine recruits are over 21. 17 and 18 year olds make up ~50% of enlistments.
They know what they are doing by having recruiters groom highschool kids. (recruiters who receive bonus pay for hitting recruitment quotas)
Voting age and drinking age moved in opposite directions since the 1970s.
The voting age used to be 21 while the age to get drafted in the military was 18. The draft for the Viet Nam War started in Dec 1969. A "old enough to fight, old enough to vote" movement grew as people thought that if the government has the power to force 18 year olds to go to war, then 18 year olds should have a say in electing that government. The 26th amendment lowering the voting age to 18 was introduced in Congress in March 1971 and it was ratified by July 1971.
OTOH, at this same time, many states had 18 as the drinking age while others had 21. Military policy was that any member of the military, regardless of age, could drink while on a military installation. As the movement to reduce the number of deaths by DUIs grew, and the large number of DUIs by the 18-21 group was recognized, pressure began building on the States and federal government to raise the drinking age to 21. Some did, some didnt. Around 1984, the federal government pressured the states by putting a provision in the highway funding law that said states with drinking ages under 21 would not receive any federal highway funds. That did the trick and all 50 stated raised the drinking age to 21.
Side note: the alleged killer of the 4 Idaho college students attended Washington State Univ. There is a 10 mile long road connecting WSU with Moscow ID. When I was a student at WSU in the 70s, the drinking age in WA was 21 and in ID it was 18. So every weekend evening there would be a solid line of cars on the 2 lane road through the wheat fields to go to Moscow to drink in the bars. Then at closing time the return trip by dozens of drunk 18-20 year olds was called "running the gauntlet" because of the number of accidents. Fortunately there was nothing but wheat fields surrounding the road, so many cars just ended up in the fields without injuries, though there were also many car collisions.
During this time period the military was getting criticism from states who already had 21 as the drinking age. They said 18 year old soldiers were drinking on post, then driving off post and having DUI crashes and deaths. So the military changed its policy to say that the drinking age on post must match whatever the age is off post. Later they adopted the 21 age everywhere.
Another side note: Army recruiters receive Special Assignment Pay for being a recruiter. Other military jobs also receive that (like drill sergeants, some jobs in the Old Guard in Washington DC). But they do not receive bonuses for hitting quota. Rather it is the negative impact of not doing well on their evaluations and thereby their careers that makes recruiting such a high pressure job.