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05-15-2019 , 12:35 PM
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Such laws are increasingly being used as the basis for arresting women who have no intention of ending a pregnancy and for preventing women from making their own decisions about how they will give birth.

How does this play out? Based on the belief that he had an obligation to give a fetus a chance for life, a judge in Washington, D.C., ordered a critically ill 27-year-old woman who was 26 weeks pregnant to undergo a cesarean section, which he understood might kill her. Neither the woman nor her baby survived.

In Iowa, a pregnant woman who fell down a flight of stairs was reported to the police after seeking help at a hospital. She was arrested for “attempted fetal homicide.”

In Utah, a woman gave birth to twins; one was stillborn. Health care providers believed that the stillbirth was the result of the woman’s decision to delay having a cesarean. She was arrested on charges of fetal homicide.

In Louisiana, a woman who went to the hospital for unexplained vaginal bleeding was locked up for over a year on charges of second-degree murder before medical records revealed she had suffered a miscarriage at 11 to 15 weeks of pregnancy.

Florida has had a number of such cases. In one, a woman was held prisoner at a hospital to prevent her from going home while she appeared to be experiencing a miscarriage. She was forced to undergo a cesarean. Neither the detention nor the surgery prevented the pregnancy loss, but they did keep this mother from caring for her two small children at home. While a state court later found the detention unlawful, the opinion suggested that if the hospital had taken her prisoner later in her pregnancy, its actions might have been permissible.

In another case, a woman who had been in labor at home was picked up by a sheriff, strapped down in the back of an ambulance, taken to a hospital, and forced to have a cesarean she did not want. When this mother later protested what had happened, a court concluded that the woman’s personal constitutional rights “clearly did not outweigh the interests of the State of Florida in preserving the life of the unborn child.”
Damn

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/08/o...?smid=fb-share
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05-15-2019 , 03:12 PM
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05-15-2019 , 05:59 PM
I do like the troll feminist position of mandatory vasectomies for all men to reduce abortion to zero
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05-15-2019 , 07:52 PM
Alabama Governor Signs Nation’s Most Restrictive Abortion Law

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"Many Americans, myself included, disagreed when Roe v. Wade was handed down in 1973. The sponsors of this bill believe that it is time, once again, for the U.S. Supreme Court to revisit this important matter, and they believe this act may bring about the best opportunity for this to occur. I want to commend the bill sponsors, Rep. Terri Collins and Sen. Clyde Chambliss, for their strong leadership on this important issue," Ivey said in her statement.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/al...cid=spartandhp

Sadism at the high level. Any peeps here pleased with this?

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05-15-2019 , 09:11 PM
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05-17-2019 , 01:25 PM
The Missouri GOP was set to dismantle a ballot initiative to fix their gerrymandering but not enough of them showed up for the vote to pass it

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/m...m-dead-for-now
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05-24-2019 , 01:58 PM
At the risk of stealing a phrase copyrighted by another poster, this description of the American Psychiatric Association annual meeting is buck wild.
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05-24-2019 , 03:52 PM
Supreme court temporarily blocks rulings requiring new voting maps in Ohio and Michigan.

Setting up an SC ruling on gerrymandering before 2020?
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05-25-2019 , 12:37 AM
Is it possible to have a class action lawsuit against the gov't over lack of UHC?

Also, GED and/or tradecraft credentials and/or diplomas, etc should be offered and paid for by the state, or prison themselves to inmates in exchange for reduced sentences. It costs the state like $30k per year to house one, why not educate them in the process? Part of savings comes from reduced prison stay, education could possibly lower recidivism, and perhaps some sort of incentive where if a for profit prison proves the education provided returned a productive individual of society, they get a reward (I am against for profit prisons (and healthcare) but I suppose if there's nothing I can do about them other than vote, next best thing would be a policy that perhaps turns a negative into a positive)
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05-25-2019 , 08:08 AM
No, goverment has immunity. The king can do no wrong.
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05-25-2019 , 07:07 PM


The thing is Bret Stephens is transparently not trying.
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05-26-2019 , 09:16 PM
Some UFO news

https://nyti.ms/2wlWKpf

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The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.
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05-28-2019 , 05:11 PM
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Banned on Amazon or not banned on Amazon? Probably not banned to start...
The Power Elite by C.W. Mills is old but a classic
Who Rules America
Both of those are tame enough to be taught in college sociology classes.
Due to availability, I started another book first, but who rules America would stand as the book I'd be most interested in by synopsis alone. Are you familiar with the updated cersions? Like, do you have an opinion on going straight to 50 years of who rules America vs the original
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05-29-2019 , 09:36 AM
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Due to availability, I started another book first, but who rules America would stand as the book I'd be most interested in by synopsis alone. Are you familiar with the updated versions? Like, do you have an opinion on going straight to 50 years of who rules America vs the original
I don't. I read it in the early 2000s and can't say which version it was but probably whatever was current then. There might be a lot in any version that I disagree with now as my views have grown a lot since then.
I only recommend it because if you are actually a 'centrist' then I would think the first notion to disabuse yourself of is the idea the two party system has something to offer politically.
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05-29-2019 , 11:45 AM
What Republicans And Democrats Are Doing In The States Where They Have Total Power

Note the asterisk about how/where they got this (incomplete) data, but still pretty interesting.





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(We purposefully left out abortion, which is covered in more detail here.)
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05-30-2019 , 03:44 PM
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A binding arbitration provision is added and the Military Lending Act Notice is revised accordingly. YOU CAN REJECT THE BINDING ARBITRATION AGREEMENT. YOU MUST MAIL YOUR REJECTION TO US BY XXXXXX. PLEASE SEE THE END OF THIS NOTICE FOR INSTRUCTIONS
Woot woot, now I get to jump through some hoops just to have the right to use the US Court System with my bank and I'm sure whoever else I ever have contact commercial contact with.
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05-30-2019 , 05:31 PM
I'm no politics forum expert by any means, but I think I have finally figured out what posting 'in good faith' means to a lot of people that use that term.

Posting 'in good faith' apparently means you can post your argument for something, but then you get told what you should reaaally think, and then if you don't agree you are a deplorable racist nazi.

Finally got it. Carry on.
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05-31-2019 , 10:53 AM
I thought this explanation of how the prices of various goods/services change relative to each other was informative and interesting: The Baumol Effect. It's not something I was previously familiar with, and the explanation seems intuitive.

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When we recognize that all prices are relative prices the following simple yet deep facts follow:
  • If productivity increases in some industries more than others then, ceteris paribus, some prices must increase.
  • Over time, all prices cannot fall.
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05-31-2019 , 03:15 PM
I am on phone so apologize for not linking this story very well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-34-1996.html

Seems like a very big deal that should be getting a lot of attention, and yet the elites on the right and left that control the discourse seemingly would prefer we bicker over culture war issues. Seems like some “divide and conquer” (the working class) tactics.
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05-31-2019 , 03:31 PM
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I'm no politics forum expert by any means, but I think I have finally figured out what posting 'in good faith' means to a lot of people that use that term.

Posting 'in good faith' apparently means you can post your argument for something, but then you get told what you should reaaally think, and then if you don't agree you are a deplorable racist nazi.

Finally got it. Carry on.
Explain.

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I am on phone so apologize for not linking this story very well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-34-1996.html

Seems like a very big deal that should be getting a lot of attention, and yet the elites on the right and left that control the discourse seemingly would prefer we bicker over culture war issues. Seems like some “divide and conquer” (the working class) tactics.
I am currently flying over the ocean in a wingsuit and might lose service soon, but has it occurred to you that we don't care about what you are currently doing every time you post?
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06-01-2019 , 04:29 PM
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You had some really eye-popping examples in the paper about pollution.

Suresh Naidu

Yeah, and it kind of reveals ... sometimes when you take economics too literally, it leads you into kind of very sociopathic ways of thinking about things.

We have quotes from Armen Alchian, who said, “Give me a capsule that will magically clean all the air in Los Angeles. ... Beg me to crush it. ... I won’t crush the capsule. Because if I do, poor blacks will have to pay $20 a month more for land rental. ... The black in Watts, already used to living with bad air, loses his discount for doing that.”

And that’s just this idea that if you clean up the pollution, more people will want to live there and that will drive up the housing prices, making the people that are already used to pollution worse off.

I think that’s the kind of reasoning you’ll find in a lot of what the Manne teachers were teaching, as well as, “Here’s why a lot of regulation by the EPA [Environmental Protection Agency] might not be the most efficient way of reducing environmental damages … and maybe people don’t value environmental damage that much anyway.”
These were the kind of side arguments my business law professor was going with, and he worked at the EPA

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...minar-ginsburg
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06-02-2019 , 12:36 AM
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I thought this explanation of how the prices of various goods/services change relative to each other was informative and interesting: The Baumol Effect. It's not something I was previously familiar with, and the explanation seems intuitive.
Another way to frame the question is: why are prices for the necessities of life going down for higher skilled workers but remaining the same for lower skilled workers? My answer is why would we expect them to do otherwise.
Adam Smith: If among a nation of hunters, for example, it usually costs twice the labour to kill a beaver which it does to kill a deer, one beaver should naturally exchange for or be worth two deer. It is natural that what is usually the produce of two days' or two hours' labour, should be worth double of what is usually the produce of one day's or one hour's labour.
If the deer hunter increases his skill and doubles his productivity and the beaver hunter doesn’t, there’s no economic reason why the 2:1 exchange rate should change. So the deer hunter will be able to get twice as many beavers for the same quantity of labor or work for half the time to get 1, but the beaver hunter will still only get 2 deer for 1 beaver. Same holds if we substitute a capitalist deer rifle manufacturer into the productivity equation: if the deer hunter kills twice as many deer due to borrowing a more efficient rifle from the capitalist—the deer hunter will still get 2-deer / 1-beaver, the beaver hunter 2-deer /1-beaver, and the capitalist pig 2-deer/ 1-beaver.

*Along the above lines (labor theory of value) and too far left of my sweet spot in terms of remedies, but she provides a nice paradigm shift that's right on the money (literally), imo: The Value of Everything: Making and Taking in the Global Economy

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06-02-2019 , 12:57 AM
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I am currently flying over the ocean in a wingsuit and might lose service soon, but has it occurred to you that we don't care about what you are currently doing every time you post?
Has it occurred to you that the 'Post Reply' button isn't an imperative? Just sayin... just because people don't take snipes doesn't mean they can't.
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06-02-2019 , 02:00 PM
is merkel done as chancellor if the coalition blows up now? is it too early for akk to implode/get pushed out already?
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06-02-2019 , 06:08 PM


I was watching this documentary and it seemed innocent enough, but then I noticed the "RT is funded in whole or in party by the Russian government." and I couldn't help but notice that it actually showed these people in a very negative light where they are talking about the impact it has on the families.

Was YT brainwashing me into seeking out the negativity in the video, or is the Russian government trying to subtly brain wash their people into seeing the negativity in the world around them. Really ruined my ability to enjoy it on an entertainment level
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