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Is it OK to Probably Injure Traffic Blocking Protester to Possibly Save Life? Is it OK to Probably Injure Traffic Blocking Protester to Possibly Save Life?

04-16-2024 , 05:08 PM
Let's be explicit so everyone is on the same page. This is unfortunately not a purely hypothetical question except for the preciseness I am hypothesizing.

You are driving your mother to the hospital along a route that you have every reason to believe is clear. But it's not, because of a protest. A protest that would not legally be allowed to totally block traffic as they are doing. Because of cars stopped behind you, the protest adds 20% to the probability your mother will die. If you slowly plow through the protest, there is an 80% chance that you will injure someone fairly seriously but no chance you will kill somebody. Are you wrong to do that? Should it be illegal? Does it matter what the protest is about?

(I think most of you will say it's OK. To those that did, what if the mother death probability went up by only 5%, the protester death probability went from zero to 70% and the policy being protested was clearly bad?)
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04-16-2024 , 05:15 PM
Mother isn’t dying so doesn’t matter. You’re biased so your predictions will be off.


No it is not ok to 80% hurt someone because you feel like you *might* help someone in the process

You might also get shot for vehicular homicide
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04-16-2024 , 05:22 PM
Protestors know there is always a chance someone will run them over and that's a risk they're willing to take.
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04-16-2024 , 05:24 PM
Do you swerve the full bus and drive off the cliff killing everyone or do you run over the old lady crossing the road?
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04-16-2024 , 05:28 PM
Those 2 in particular, last go-'round, that went 'round in the air. Martyrs.

And remember dude with an AR, posturing? He got wasted by the motorist. yhtsi
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04-16-2024 , 05:56 PM
Some fool on the highway has a chance of killing your mother by 20% and you're asking whether or not injuring him but not killing him is worth it?
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04-16-2024 , 05:59 PM
This is just a slightly elaborate version of the trolley problem.
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04-16-2024 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Mother isn’t dying so doesn’t matter. You’re biased so your predictions will be off.


No it is not ok to 80% hurt someone because you feel like you *might* help someone in the process

You might also get shot for vehicular homicide
What if it's only a 19% chance of getting shot?

Pw, just pretend it was another homeless man who entered your porch and you asked whether or not you should shoot the guy.
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04-16-2024 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by formula72
What if it's only a 19% chance of getting shot?

Pw, just pretend it was another homeless man who entered your porch and you asked whether or not you should shoot the guy.
Did he enter my home without invitation ?
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04-16-2024 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Did he enter my home without invitation ?
Your 80% certain he didn't get invited but 20% sure he knows Kung Fu.
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04-16-2024 , 06:09 PM
lol
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04-16-2024 , 06:15 PM
The other day some drunk dude with a gun wanted to play Russian roulette with my mom and I had to sit down and think about whether or not to kick his ass.

I guess my mom had better odds there.
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04-16-2024 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Let's be explicit so everyone is on the same page. This is unfortunately not a purely hypothetical question except for the preciseness I am hypothesizing.

You are driving your mother to the hospital along a route that you have every reason to believe is clear. But it's not, because of a protest. A protest that would not legally be allowed to totally block traffic as they are doing. Because of cars stopped behind you, you assess that the protest adds 20% to the probability your mother will die. If you slowly plow through the protest, there is an 80% chance that you will injure someone fairly seriously but no chance you will kill somebody. Are you wrong to do that? Should it be illegal? Does it matter what the protest is about?

(I think most of you will say it's OK. To those that did, what if the mother death probability went up by only 5%, the protester death probability went from zero to 70% and the policy being protested was clearly bad?)
Download Waze, boomer
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04-16-2024 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by formula72
The other day some drunk dude with a gun wanted to play Russian roulette with my mom and I had to sit down and think about whether or not to kick his ass.

I guess my mom had better odds there.
A day in the life. You're ready.
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04-16-2024 , 06:38 PM
Holy mother****, and I thought I had a substance abuse problem.

Dave I think we need to lock up whoever prescribed you the percocets. Also, I don't think you are supposed to do them with a pestle and mortar.
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04-16-2024 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Let's be explicit so everyone is on the same page. This is unfortunately not a purely hypothetical question except for the preciseness I am hypothesizing.

You are driving your mother to the hospital along a route that you have every reason to believe is clear. But it's not, because of a protest. A protest that would not legally be allowed to totally block traffic as they are doing. Because of cars stopped behind you, you assess that the protest adds 20% to the probability your mother will die. If you slowly plow through the protest, there is an 80% chance that you will injure someone fairly seriously but no chance you will kill somebody. Are you wrong to do that? Should it be illegal? Does it matter what the protest is about?

(I think most of you will say it's OK. To those that did, what if the mother death probability went up by only 5%, the protester death probability went from zero to 70% and the policy being protested was clearly bad?)
You’re not wrong to do it.
It should not be illegal.
It doesn’t matter what the protest is about.

It’s just a matter of time until a car plows through a crowd blocking a highway. And most people will support it (rightfully so).
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04-16-2024 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Holy mother****, and I thought I had a substance abuse problem.

Dave I think we need to lock up whoever prescribed you the percocets. Also, I don't think you are supposed to do them with a pestle and mortar.
If you watched American media you would see this dude makes posts when he sees something in society he doesn’t agree with

Like non violent protests. Or people choosing their gender. Or abortion. Hell he will even write a book cause he doesn’t like what he thinks is gto
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04-16-2024 , 07:26 PM
‘The Theory of Life Beginning at Conception. Foreword by Dan Harrington’
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04-16-2024 , 07:30 PM
nothing like driving over protester fantasy thought experiments
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04-16-2024 , 07:57 PM
Sometimes I wonder what OPs Sklansky thought up but decided not to post

‘For $1 million dollars would you eat a hamburger with a 33% chance of being made of human flesh?’
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04-16-2024 , 07:57 PM
Is the political angle coming in a future post, or did you post in this forum by mistake?
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04-16-2024 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Let's be explicit so everyone is on the same page. This is unfortunately not a purely hypothetical question except for the preciseness I am hypothesizing.

You are driving your mother to the hospital along a route that you have every reason to believe is clear. But it's not, because of a protest. A protest that would not legally be allowed to totally block traffic as they are doing. Because of cars stopped behind you, you assess that the protest adds 20% to the probability your mother will die. If you slowly plow through the protest, there is an 80% chance that you will injure someone fairly seriously but no chance you will kill somebody. Are you wrong to do that? Should it be illegal? Does it matter what the protest is about?

(I think most of you will say it's OK. To those that did, what if the mother death probability went up by only 5%, the protester death probability went from zero to 70% and the policy being protested was clearly bad?)
protests shouldn't be allowed to block roads. Disturbing other people property rights should be treated like disturbing other people bodies: never allowed, full stop, unlimited violence fully justified to interrupt the violent upheaval of property rights.

The lives of protesters violating property rights have no value, killing them should be rewarded by the state. I would pay some taxes to set up huge rewards to anyone who kills someone who is violating public property rights making public property not usable by others.

So not only it should be legal, it should be expressely rewarded by the state to use unlimited violence to remove the ****ers who are abusing public property against the will of the owners (the public which votes and delegates the use of the property to elected authorities).
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04-16-2024 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Sometimes I wonder what OPs Sklansky thought up but decided not to post

‘For $1 million dollars would you eat a hamburger with a 33% chance of being made of human flesh?’
Most people would eat a 100% human flesh hamburger for 10k
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04-16-2024 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gs3737
You’re not wrong to do it.
It should not be illegal.
It doesn’t matter what the protest is about.

It’s just a matter of time until a car plows through a crowd blocking a highway. And most people will support it (rightfully so).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?embeds...&v=ItOhNVPplvY

Communists trying to block Roman people on highways around the city.

Very simply, killing each and every one of them should come with a monetary reward from the state
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04-16-2024 , 09:00 PM
Can I still slowly run them over if my mother isn't dying?

Idiots sitting in the middle of the freeway need to be taught that freeways are for cars, not people. I'm 99% sure there are signs along every highway that states pedestrians are prohibited.
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