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09-12-2022 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
What percentage of people even know where Oberlin college is or what it is?
like i said, there are like 5 active threads here. am i taking up too much bandwith by posting about this?
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09-12-2022 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
This article mentions that most stores don't chase after shoplifters because they don't want it to escalate to violence, but it doesn't say that business have to let shoplifters go (just that they generally do).

It amounts to the same, most cases get dropped anyways. Clerks are told to not step in. Its a homeless and drug problem and they had this problem for a while. Now it got out of hand. Homeless run in, grab something and storm out, nothing happens. Private business might still chase after them, But smaller stores and franchises are told not to, since its too dangerous, I heard they just pack up and leave.

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09-12-2022 , 08:15 PM
Wow, on the quote above about police walking in on the students kicking and punching to store employee lying on the ground. Why weren't these guys charged with assault and battery as well? That's far worse than shoplifting a bottle of wine. And how would any college officials think that was justified behavior, even if the students had been targeted because of their race?
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09-12-2022 , 08:20 PM
Yeah I have a lot of questions too like that.
I have seen a lot of crazy cases but this takes the cake.

Its all too crazy.
How is this all possible?

why not sue the blond prof for defamation? (she is blamed the most in the trial) Why not the president? She is stalling payment until now.

Why are they not fired yet? I have no clue.
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09-12-2022 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
This article mentions that most stores don't chase after shoplifters because they don't want it to escalate to violence, but it doesn't say that business have to let shoplifters go (just that they generally do).
Correct.
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09-12-2022 , 08:22 PM
Ohio statute for robbery covers the assault.

One was charged with attempted robbery. Two others with assault.

There is no such thing as "battery" in ohio.
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09-12-2022 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Should Dave Chapel face action for saying that the person who attacked him was transgender? Seems it was a defamation and lie rolled into one.
Well, the guy stated that he was bisexual and that he was offended by Dave's comments about trans people, so that seems like it could have easily been a mistake.

But saying someone is trans could only be defamation if being trans is a negative thing - shame on you for implying that trans people are evil.
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09-12-2022 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckyK
Ohio statute for robbery covers the assault.

One was charged with attempted robbery. Two others with assault.

There is no such thing as "battery" in ohio.
Huh, the above info seems to say they were only convicted of shoplifting; some kind of plea deal to reduce charges for robbery and assault? That's terrible if these violent offenders only have shoplifting on their record; they should have the rest of their lives ruined for such behavior.
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09-12-2022 , 08:59 PM
Its inviting criminals, a gang member doesnt care anyways if he gets a slap on the wrist. Now he cannot even get punished, so the cops let them go. He is too smart and fast for any clerk anyways, so he does it often. when the clerk has instruction to not even go after him thats an even bigger invite to do it all the time.

Also for the homeless, they are probably not jailing them, send them back on the street. its like a disneyland for criminals if they cant even get charged.

Also for the average joe. He thinks f it, now I cant even get charged. Misdemeanour? awesome, I steal items worth 900 bucks, do it again and again.


Not to be taken seriously, some owner might still shoot them. But he is not supposed to. If the items are under 900 bucks and he attacks the thieve from what I understand he will go to jail. (this might be wrong)

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09-12-2022 , 09:17 PM
We're talking about the Oberlin College case. What does the homelessness have to do with a college overstepping their boundaries?
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09-12-2022 , 09:19 PM
Nothing, you are right. They were talking about it so I thought I answer some stuff
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09-12-2022 , 09:21 PM
The wiki of the school still has no mentioning of this controversy.

I wonder why, its probably bad for business. How can I add this to their wiki? I thought everyone can add something to wiki. Open source right?


3000 students next to a bakery that were instructed by the dean and president to terrrorize the place. They used resources of the school, so staff time and money to organzize the protests.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberlin_College

It is the oldest coeducational liberal arts college in the United States and the second oldest continuously operating coeducational institute of higher learning in the world.[5] The Oberlin Conservatory of Music is the oldest continuously operating conservatory in the United States.[6] In 1835, Oberlin became one of the first colleges in the United States to admit African Americans, and in 1837 the first to admit women[7] (other than Franklin College's brief experiment in the 1780s[8]). It has been known since its founding for progressive student activism.[9]
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09-12-2022 , 09:29 PM
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Grandpa Gibson told his son, David: "I’ve lived my life the right way and done all the right things and I’ve helped people, people of all colors and ethnic backgrounds, and at the end of my hard life, they’re trying to brand me and my family as a racist,"' Plakas recalled, citing David's testimony during the trial against Oberlin College.'That moment was a poignant moment in trial. It was hard for David Gibson to get out that testimony because he knew how much these false claims had impacted and hurt Grandpa Gibson, who had dedicated his life to doing the right thing,' the attorney added.


Grandpa marched with Martin Luther King for fairness and equality, so for the college to sacrifice the great Gibson to appease their students, had a dramatic impact on his health. When you ruin someone’s reputation you can’t go to the doctor, you have to live with it.’
David, who died in November 2019, was also committed to preserving the family's reputation despite his ongoing battle with pancreatic cancer.
‘Defending their reputation and protecting the family legacy was so important to the family that although David Gibson had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer during the trial and was receiving treatment, he was there every day at the trial when he was suffering,' Plakas shared.
Although he was ill, David refused to make the jury aware of his condition, fearing they might sympathize for him or his family, the attorney alleged.
'David said the whole purpose was a vindication of the family long reputation and he wanted any determination to be solely on the facts and the history,' Plakas told DailyMail.com. 'He was concerned if the jury knew he was being treated for cancer that would some way impact their verdict in his favor. He didn’t want the verdict colored in anyway.'





https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-students.html
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09-12-2022 , 09:36 PM
Yeah me too. I think this college did great in the past to fight for liberties of minorities. But here their student activism was way off.
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09-12-2022 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Should Dave Chapel face action for saying that the person who attacked him was transgender? Seems it was a defamation and lie rolled into one.
Quote him as I do not believe you. I think you are making crap up via misrepresentation as the truth does not suit you.

But quote away.
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09-12-2022 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
The wiki of the school still has no mentioning of this controversy.
It's very clearly mentioned when I look at the Oberlin wiki page.


It's amazing how the "The media aren't talking about this!" canard is utterly and demonstrably wrong every. single. time.
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09-12-2022 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
It's very clearly mentioned when I look at the Oberlin wiki page.


It's amazing how the "The media aren't talking about this!" canard is utterly and demonstrably wrong every. single. time.
I found it, thats it? seriously? It doesnst reflect the atrocity. This deserves its own chapter.

and its very clever hidden since it doesnt even have an own section. Its hidden under, 21st century, and is a a bit of a distortion of the truth. The timeline and just about everything is way too nicley written.


Here it is:

Gibson's Bakery v. Oberlin College

Main article: Gibson's Bakery v. Oberlin College
In 2016, after a black Oberlin student was caught shoplifting two bottles of wine from Gibson's Bakery and Market, a downtown Oberlin business, Oberlin faculty and students staged large demonstrations urging a boycott of on the grounds that the store was racist. In June 2019, the college was found liable for libel and tortious interference in a lawsuit initiated by the store; the bakery was awarded damages of $44 million by the jury, but a legal cap on damages reduced the award to $31.5 million.[82] In October 2019, the college appealed the case to the Ninth District Court of Appeals in Akron, Ohio.[83] On March 31, 2022, the Court of Appeals unanimously dismissed both appeals, Oberlin and Gibson, upholding the jury verdict and Judge Miraldi's decisions.[84] The Ohio Supreme Court choose to not accept the appeal and cross-appeal on August 29, 2022.[85

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09-12-2022 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
I found it, and its very clever hidden since it doesnt even have an own section.
"hidden"

FFS dude

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09-12-2022 , 11:12 PM
This is not what I would normally expect of a wiki, trolly.

Its a tiny entry and its kinda hidden. was looking for controversy.

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09-12-2022 , 11:38 PM
Oberlin has been around for a ****ing long time. That paragraph with a link to main article is consistent with how other articles on Wiki handle such matters.
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09-12-2022 , 11:57 PM
Oberlin is only tied for 39th in best liberal arts colleges: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges...-arts-colleges

The Air Force Academy comes in way ahead of them at 18th. Now if I was a student at Oberlin having a freaking military academy being that much better is something I would protest.
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09-13-2022 , 12:11 AM
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Oberlin has been around for a ****ing long time. That paragraph with a link to main article is consistent with how other articles on Wiki handle such matters.

How about not leaving out inconvenient truth, and phrase the sentence a little more precise as such: oberlin student shoplifted and beat and kicked the 60 year old owner on the ground. How about hitting the clerk, and what about the other two students that were engaged in the beatings?They are leaving out important details and that obviously intentionally. And that on the main page. Who clicks links on the mainpage? There should be everything and that pretty unbiased. They are making me root for the college when I read this. No, no, this is not how any other wiki entry is handled that I read. It should say controversy, and then it should at least have some honesty and accuracy.


Maybe thats how all colleges are handling things and they have to, idk.
But I dont see any cofession, nothing, there, instead just appeal after appeal, and no confession, we call that whitewash here. Nicetalking,

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09-13-2022 , 12:51 AM
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Here’s an email to the whole college from Oberlin’s president, expressing no contrition for their actions—only assurance that the endowment will remain intact. What a callous place this “social justice” school is!
Dear Obies,
Today, Oberlin College and Conservatory initiated payment in full of the $36.59 million judgment in the GibsonÂ’s Bakery case, an amount that represents the awarded damages and interest owed. Please see the collegeÂ’s public statement below.
While this outcome is a disappointment, our financial plans for this possibility, which included insurance coverage, mean that this payment will not impact or diminish our academic or student life experience, or require us to draw down OberlinÂ’s endowment.
Like me, the majority of the campus was not here at the beginning of this matter in 2016. But it is also true that this case has been difficult for all of us who love this institution and its hometown. I am looking forward to all that is ahead, and remain focused on OberlinÂ’s core mission of providing a truly excellent liberal arts and musical education.
Carmen Twillie Ambar
President
I guess Oberlin can’t bear to say to its community “we were wrong.” That is an insensitive email, but of course the Woke never apologize. It’s not part of their playbook.







Woke Oberlin College is hit with FOUR MILLION DOLLARS in interest charges for dragging its heels in paying $36m defamation damages to family-run bakery over false racism claims

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...un-bakery.html

that is of course not on their wiki.


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They still dont confess to anything.

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09-13-2022 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
How about not leaving out inconvenient truth, and phrase the sentence a little more precise as such: oberlin student shoplifted and beat and kicked the 60 year old owner on the ground. How about hitting the clerk, and what about the other two students that were engaged in the beatings?They are leaving out important details and that obviously intentionally. And that on the main page. Who clicks links on the mainpage? There should be everything and that pretty unbiased. They are making me root for the college when I read this. No, no, this is not how any other wiki entry is handled that I read. It should say controversy, and then it should at least have some honesty and accuracy.


Maybe thats how all colleges are handling things and they have to, idk.
But I dont see any cofession, nothing, there, instead just appeal after appeal, and no confession, we call that whitewash here. Nicetalking,
Holy Christ man, your difficulties with basic information literacy and navigating a Wikipedia entry are not the fault of Oberlin.
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09-13-2022 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
That paragraph with a link to main article is consistent with how other articles on Wiki handle such matters.
With as much time as washoe spends on the internet, he should know this.
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