Canada not immune to raging cops

Story here

We respond to mentally unstable people with bullets

We respond to everything...With ****ing bullets

And now there are riots in my city. Again. Because unloading the clip on someone with mental problems holding a knife is police procedure, apparently

There has been rioting and chaos in the streets of what I believe is West Philadelphia and the National Guard has been deployed

And you wonder why these cities get ravaged. Families devastated. Communities completely losing trust in police...

The man was having a mental health crisis. And the taxpayer funded solution...was to shoot at him 14 ****ing times.

I don't think Antifa is necessarily unproblematic.

But the issue here is a political climate that enables right-wing terrorist to carry out specific plans to incite violence and kill people. And even though the facts are seemingly on the table, they still get handed a complete and total victory.

In this thread alone there was a raging debate on this specific attack, and Antifa and left-wing violence was succesfully peddled as a bogeyman and blamed for the attacks all over alt-right media. But now that we know the truth, that it was a result of incitement and terrorism act by a known radical right-wing movement, there isn't even a hint of debate. Their plan should have failed, but it has been allowed to work due to political convenience.

“Just because all the white people at VMI are racists, does not mean they have a problem with racism.” -CV

Curious as to what you think society should offer as a solution?

If just an ambulance shows up and an unstable guy comes at them with a knife then what?

The best people to deal with him are his own family who actually care about him. And they couldn’t deal with him, and called 911 telling them that, and that he was armed with a knife.

One tactical approach could be to have one cop with taser drawn and one with gun drawn. If the taser fails then lethal force is ready to use. I don’t see easy answers to this problem with the mentally ill and/or suicide by cop types.

Those officers were not armed with tasers

One possible solution already posted in this thread

Let a mental health professional take primary and handle the situation. Have an officer back that person up. Have a sole interest in a nonlethal outcome

UHC would have provided the victim with meds/proper care and it's entirely possible no interaction with police would have ever occurred if this country had UHC

There's probably a million better ways than filling someone up with lead

We can probably look to other countries to learn from how they handle similar situations. We can reduce the number of guns in this country. Less guns = less need for guns. Other countries seem to do just fine without them, why can't we?

Yeah, great post. Ok I like the new moderation.

I told the old moderator that 3 specific posters would ruin this forum - including the antifa boogeyman guy. They're all gone now. And it's much better.

From your link

Someone having a mental problem with a knife is a little different. I feel so sorry for the mom in the video of the guy in Philly. Awful situation. Just awful.

They have to have some other sort of non lethal weapon that can subdue a mentally ill person in this situation. Maybe a fast acting tranquilizer? Lasso to the legs? Spiderman-like net that shoots out of a cannon? Something needs to change I agree.

I'm sure most police officers are shown this video as a caution of handling someone with a knife. One cop almost gets killed after the guy is already shot a bunch of times.

Seriously. We can knock down a rhino/elephant etc and we can't put a human to sleep? It makes no sense.

Those things take a long time to take effect. Anything that knocks you out that quickly would probably kill you.

I hear ya. But I'd much rather the cops hit me some fentanyl or whatever and then bring me out of it with some narcan once the cuffs are on way before shooting me 10x at point blank range w/ some headshots.

I can't help but think if that guy in the yellow got darted immediately--by the time they made it to the shooting part he'd have already been staggering or close to out of it.

If its not like almost instant snooze after getting darted then its not good. Shoot him in the leg with a dart, he charges and still has to get shot. Also if any civilians are around puts them in danger.

Almost impossible situation.

Too many junkies pulling knives for the high.
Too much liability for allergic reactions.
Sends the wrong message about comply or die policy.


TS, JV, and... ?

an extremely short-lived high reversed immediately followed by years in jail. Sounds like a good time

I'd take the allergic reaction all day over bullets to the face

You seem to be poking a lot of holes in my completely rational and logically consistent points.

Whaddya got some sort of bullet allergy?

Ya, the yellow shirt dude is probably about the ideal situation for something like that. It just seems crazy that with all that extra time basically the only option is to try to talk em down until it ends up with the cop about to get killed/seriously injured.

TS was already gone by that time.

Cognitive dissonance or myopia?


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Can't believe I forgot about kellllllllllllvus already. That still leaves a third... mickey, luckbox?

Let me know when doctors start murdering people intentionally, on video, all across the US.

When the weapon used presently kills almost 100% of the time there is no reason why, in the short run, alternatives need to kill 0%. Take away that restriction and I am sure someone could temporarily come up with something.

What happened to Kelvus?
Self-ban?

Well you see, if an infinite amount of monkeys are armed with an infinite amount of laptops and 2p2 accounts, eventually they will have as many accounts banned as Kelhus.

Mickey never posted enough to ruin the forum. He's so bad that he makes the left's point for them by example - like Goofus, or the Berenstain Bear dad.

Plus he's the poster boy of my best dunk on 2p2, which I can always throw back in his face for fun whenever I feel like it.

Brave police officers rescueing lost children while their obviously delict parents are out rioting...

Oh

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