https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/0...health-police/

I mean it was a right wing dumbass who thought he could just do the normal thing right wingers do to torture protesters by spraying them with bear spray, but the news crew had a private security guard who didn't quite understand that protesters are just supposed to get sprayed with bear spray.

That being said I'd give the security guard some kind of a murder charge. I've said it before, as shitty as it is that we've somehow accepted right winger psychopaths spraying people with bear spray, it's not a deadly weapon and the security guard's life wasn't in danger, if that's all it was.

The lesson learned is don't bring bear spray to a gunfight.

A South Dakota town, founded by Union soldiers and named after the Battle of Gettysburg, added confederate flags to their police uniforms in 2009 (hmmmm, wonder what was happening in the nation around that time to cause this kind of reaction). George Floyd's uncle happens to be one of four black residents in the town and in the aftermath of his nephew's death, asked the town to get rid of them. The police chief did so.

The townsfolkkk are FURIOUS.

The confederates insist they are PRESERVING THEIR HISTORY

Yes, yes, the local Confederate history of Gettysburg, South Dakota. Story checks out!

Can't wait for police wearing Swastika to remember its history, or big isis flags.
Gotta honor history guys.

Literally shoot first and ask questions later

Literally **** up a raid and try to find a way to justify it afterward

Literally try to string together as much bullshit evidence as possible to make it look like filling up Breonna Taylor full of lead, on a mistake, is quite alright

And you have the idiot cop who just decided to fire at will into a building, having absolutely no idea who was in there having enough gall to pretend that he thought his partners were being shot up inside the building

Listen, I can understand if your partners, whom you entrust your life with and pledge to defend theirs in reciprocation, are in true danger and you hold true fear, but I've got news for you. If your response is to just panic and unload your clip at essentially no target and without a single shred of regard for human life within the structure you're firing at, then you're just ****ing incompetent and have no business being a police officer. ****ing idiot could've killed multiple kids, neighbors, innocent bystanders like Taylor, and even his own partners

And because he's going to get a slap on the wrist and no one with true power is going to give a ****, he can get a job, the same ****ing job he's not fit for, in another jurisdiction, so he can make the same stupid ****ing mistake. And people defend this ****? Here, how about this, let's send all the dumb ****ing cops who don't care who they kill to YOUR neighborhood. Let's see how you like it when they operate a raid on a house that doesn't even have the target at a location that was LOW on whatever dumb ass rating system they have to predict crime

The fact that we have to make this stupid **** a centerpoint of discussion, rather than just making the stupid ****ing drugs Walker apparently sold for like $50 legal, and that it would make police not have to execute violent, bullet riddled raids, is exactly my point before about how this thread and that traumatic event is ALL WRONG

You people still don't ****ing get it

You're talking about a problem that literally doesn't have to exist. We should be talking about what Huehuecoyotl posted a few posts ago. We should be talking about how Colorado legalized marijuana and the merits of its success and the drawbacks that come with it so that we can improve upon such. We should be talking about how other countries have had success with changing their approach to drugs and how it can be plausibly replicated here

Every year we don't do this, we shoot ourselves in the foot. You would think that Republicans and conservatives, who ***** and moan about paying taxes incessantly, would want to enact law and policy that would reduce the necessity of paying taxes to fund ever growing police departments when we could invest much more wisely through alternatives put forth like in Hue's post

People need to change the way they think about these things. They spend all this time scouring the internet intent on scoring points on a problem that doesn't even have to exist

We should be seeking ways to make it so we REDUCE the militarization of police. We should REDUCE the burden of which they deal with. I don't want to call the police and have to wait 3 ****ing hours because my tenant was robbed and almost every single important possession stolen all while she was working in my store for a shitty wage

Yeah, that literally happened. She worked 7 hours to come home to that. I worked 12 hours that day, had to call police at around 1am, they didn't show up until 4am

Because the cities have such condensed populations and a whole confluence of other factors that OVERLOAD police's ability to respond/effectively deal with crime

Decriminalize marijuana, and they'd have much less to worry about. Let the health department handle it. If a cop isn't bothering someone on the street because they're holding some weed which is of no danger to anyone, then they're elsewhere dealing with real crime, like some ******* beating his wife. Or MY ****ING TENANT BEING ROBBED

The most frustrating thing about this is the fact that it's not just the initial change that can come from doing the right thing in terms of policy and governance, it's all the other burdens it alleviates over time. It is crystal clear there is a better way, and we don't take it. Sure, new policy trades in old problems for new. We should WANT that and steadfastly approach those new problems the same way we could be approaching the current, but currently aren't

Change the laws, change the people

Kenneth Walker selling pills n weed for a couple bucks in a parking lot is not the problem. The fact that that's illegal is the problem

Legalize it. Regulate it with teeth (this is why Democrats are a joke) and tax it REASONABLY (this is where Democrats **** everything up). Let cops deal with kidnappings instead. Take the tax revenue and fund rehabilitation. Create jobs and even more tax revenue

But no, let's talk a little bit more about how this one time at band camp Breonna Taylor was in a picture with a guy holding a gun. That's waaay more important. This country is insane...

Everyone knows that posing with a gun makes you a criminal. Especially in America. It's not like there's some gun-obsessed culture which fetishizes murder-machines and opposes any efforts to regulate them.

No way. That is impossible. You can not respond to calls from help from the public with anything but overwhelming force!

Have a 100% of those calls resulted in the murder of the responder? I was assured that was most likely in this very thread?

What do you mean none of them have been murdered? But they have murdered some of the people who called for help, right? What do you mean no they have not murdered anyone!

#REFUNDTHEPOLICE

#TREATMENTALILLNESSWITHBULLETS

This isn't just what led up, it shows the actual shooting. Just like the Patriot Prayer guy who went down in a cloud of mace in Portland.

I very much doubt Chauvin is gonna walk away.

He's going to walk away and on top of that he is going to walk away a multi millionaire!

lol. just like that covington punk totally got "millions" from cnn right?

It is very unlikely that Chauvin walks even here in 2020 but if he did, I'd doubt he'd have to worry about money for the rest of his life.

Awesome. I've been saying that this was a big factor behind a lot of the looting all along. I hope he gets life.

I know exactly why this happened

Dickheads ride their ATVs here in Philly all the time. They're dangerous for the driver and anyone traveling around them. They SHOULD be taken off the street

BUT NOT LIKE THIS

This is what I mean by people not understanding what the problem is. You cannot gain public trust if you also don't give a **** that a human being was guided into a concrete wall like a ****ing battering ram with a ****ing police cruiser behind him

And any of you who can only bring yourself to say some bullshit like "He had it coming" or "Good. **** him, probably has a rap sheet a mile long" ARE MISSING THE POINT

Nobody wants to live around irresponsible people. Nobody wants to drive their ****ing car in the street only to have their side mirror clipped by some ******* doing a wheelie on a street illegal bike. Nobody wants to have to navigate in traffic while 20 ****ing ATVs/bikes whiz past them and all they're trying to do is get to work on time without accidentally killing what most likely is just some dumb ass kid who doesn't know any better yet

It is NATURAL to not immediately feel bad for someone who just pissed you off on the road. THINK before you REACT. I get angry too. But NOBODY wants five oh leaving someone in the hospital in critical condition just because you can't get to work on time and are nervous just being idle in the street as a dozen vehicles that aren't supposed to be on the road whiz by...

We want SOLUTIONS not pointed fingers. We want LESS violence not more. We want a better functioning system. We want a police officer to operate under a better system, make better decisions, and have less of a burden, to the point that they're not all worried more about the ****ing camera documenting evidence instead of the guy that just got splattered all over the concrete wall

Until you all want that and understand the ramifications of the way you think, and police think, then you will never, ever earn my trust in an institution I was under the impression is supposed to protect and serve ME for the taxes I PAY. I KNOW what the response is. "They are trying to protect you..."

I would say that's a pretty shitty job if you ask me. It arguably shouldn't even be their job. Not everything has to be a god damn car chase. That guy's family will now go through hell. That community will suffer. No matter what really happened in that horrible incident, people will trust police LESS not more. So while I get that people have good intentions, that doesn't mean you actually are protecting me if your actions lead to more unrest and less public trust. Stopping someone on a scooter violently does me no good if my father's business might get burned to the ground in a week! Think about it!

The whole concept of defund the police (another reason Democrats are ****ing incompetent, the messaging is god awful and misleading and needs to be rebranded so the common dolt can understand its true meaning) is to find a way to get those bikes/quads off the street without having to have needless outcomes like this. We should not be wanting our taxes to pay for 1) a protocol where a cruiser needs to potentially kill a dude on a scooter 2) police to have to deal with this **** in the first place

Change the laws, change the people

I mean, just take a minute to think about what happened there. How irate and enraged would you feel if you had a son or daughter who somehow ended up hanging out with some friends and they get on a bike/scooter/quad for a random joyride and then by late night time you find out this is what happened

I'D WANT TO BURN THE ****ING CITY TO THE GROUND TOO

It is just so sick and twisted that our society functions like this...The cognitive dissonance sears my brain

Boogaloo Bois are ANTIFA right?

Lololol

It is amazing how many incidents of hardcore unrest and criminal action ended up being right wing scumbags. All the while people screeching “ANTIFA! BLM!”

Heck we had a bunch of those people here.

Interesting bbc article on Minneapolis and the quest to reform the police

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54665665

A Boogaloo (essentially a loosely internet-connected group of of various extremist libertarians, militias and far-right wings) movement member has been charged in connection with armed attack on Minneapolis precinct, also charges with two others for material support for a foreign terrorist organization. He was involved in setting fire to the police building, and is charged with inciting riots for this.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boog...ry?id=73789955

Ivan Hunter is also connected to Steven Carrillo, as some might remember as the member of the Boogaloos who killed two law enforcement officers in May, 2020. These two sent messages back and forth, bragging about their actions right after Carrillo had killed a law enforcement officer in California.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...olis-precinct/

Shockingly, antifa has never been the real problem.

WALTER WALLACE JR. UNGUNNED MAN KILLED BY PHILADELPHIA POLICE. Will justice be served?

Angry about media reports of racism at Virginia Military Institute, cadets exchange racist messages on anonymous chat app to vent about being called racist

Thank god they cleared up that VMI does not have any problems with racism!