Said with a drink in hand and steroids pulsing through his veins no doubt.

I don’t think it points to that. If you look at the history of no knock incidents sometimes people are charged and sometimes not. The boyfriend’s behavior made it seem he didn’t know; was woken up/didn’t hear police, fired just a single shot, called 911 himself right after.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant

Cops aren't black or white. They're blue, and they put that race above any other.

But don't let it be a black and a white one
'Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top
Black police showing out for the white cop

Why was the warrant erroneous? They had lots of video surveillance and audio recordings to show the judge who gave the warrant. The warrant wasn’t erroneous IMO the execution of it was. It’s high risk to break down someone’s door while they are likely sleeping or awoken confused to the banging. They knew the drug dealer was at one of the drop houses that was going to be simultaneously raided. However the warrant was legal and the police are allowed to bang in the door. Once they were fired upon its proportionate for the police to return fire. (I should say the police being fired upon, the terminated officer was in a different location and should be charged the same as any civilian who fired into a building randomly. If his bullets had hit Breonna he could have had additional charges.) What the police did and the boyfriend did were both reasonable. The no knock warrant is what put both parties in this position.

With the information in the previous link in mind, check this out:





The federal government dramatically increased spending on those at the bottom, starting in the 40's and continuing today, and the article you cited says economic inequality increased during that time. How is that possible? Not only that, the left wants to tax and spend more to "redistribute wealth"


I'm all for a safety net, but I'm under no illusion it's going to make the bottom richer, but will improve their standard/quality of life. I also know almost every dollar you give a poor person, they are eventually going to trade it to a rich person/company for a good or service, willingly and ethically, in almost all cases.

lol nope just a true believer. Plus like other jobs when you're the boss there's really no such thing as real time off. On a random Sunday hanging out watching football his phone is going pretty much non-stop, anything serious and it's leave immediately--showing up drunk isn't really an option.

I think you should've been permanently banned years ago.

A lot of posters here should have been

In terms of "right wing" posters here, the only ones I have respect for are Howard Treesong and John21. The rest of you for the most part seem like clowns incapable of real, meaningful discussion

I can't believe I wasted so much time on this site. Two months have gone by and I see nothing has changed. You're all yelling at brick walls

The problem with right wing posters in general is that they are correct in hammering the point of personal responsibility, but that concept makes them wrong in terms of governing a country. There is a balance, a mix and context to every decision, law, interaction of police and citizen. The right simply does not know how to apply that balance evenly. The left doesn't really either, but they are not nearly as bad

What amazes me about 2+2 is the sheer inability to understand counterintuitive thinking. But I guess I should know better, 90% of poker players lose

Not understanding that there is more to it than simply just personal responsibility or herp derp don't commit crimes/follow orders you won't get shot is like continually claiming that folding is a losing play, or something that simple yet so profoundly wrong is actually the mentality one should hold for life, without even bothering to question its validity

Racial injustice doesn't get solved. It gets reduced. Every time you defend the police rather than concede they ****ed up, or blame Breonna Taylor for getting shot because apparently she's neck deep in some major drug operation, you make more permanent the lack of trust needed to bridge the gap

I have no reason to trust police if they're going to make a mistake and refuse to own up to it. To lie about events that transpire. To back fellow cops but not a person's rights. It is ****ed up that citizens do it, and deceive police and mean harm, but it is BEYOND ****ed up that police do it. They are supposed to be held to a higher standard and have my trust

I pay taxes so cops protect ME not each other. If I can't trust them, then the entire system is broken. And you sit there and defend it heavily...never at any moment truly speaking on this subject with a balance or impartiality...

You should've been banned when you were continually yapping about how Breonna Taylor was "involved in drugs" and refusing to provide even a single source but a vague mention of a friend you having "knowing things"

If that is OK for discourse here, then this forum is worthless and so are the posters and moderators here who perpetuate it. I used to come here to learn. Y'all somehow morphed into pure noise over the years and it's a shame

If drugs became legal, then the illegal industry would be forced to downsize or become non existent

Some of those "runners" would just become legit businesses paying taxes (assuming governance doesn't moronically tax too high which would drive them right back underground)

Some of those "runners" would get real jobs or real education to get real jobs

I dunno what you mean by runners gonna run, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people who sell **** like weed would probably make more money working a healthy number of hours at a ****ing Target. You can't make serious money selling drugs without discipline and intelligence

But that is neither here nor there...We have plenty of history and data to show clearly that what we are doing is not only wrong, but beyond ****ed up. If nothing else, police waste so much time, money, and resources on it that if districts were bars they'd belong on Bar Rescue (I know the show is fake but you get my point)

Colorado was the guinea pig and it is clear the rest of the country should have followed suit by now. This country is a monumentally corrupt joke that does not care about solving problems

I don't want to get in a tit-for-tat here.

Governments waste and bloat and are inefficient and corrupt. No doubt about that.

Governments are going to take lots of taxpayer money regardless of party. It is just going to happen. So the goal has to be to ensure that gov't spends that money on CITIZEN priorities. If you fight that, they will gladly give it all away to special interests.

So things like Medicaid, M4A, Social Security, Infrastructure and things that build the middleclass are far better than bloating the Military Complex and other areas like corporate subsidies, and especially those areas that put very little back in the economy.

America's success and growth post WW2 is largely attributed to the building of the MIddle Class. China's success and growth the last few decades has mirrored that as more and more people have moved from poverty to the middle class.

The tip back to gutting the middleclass to the benefit of the uber rich will provide short term gain to the uber rich but damage the country and middleclass badly thus making the long term wealth of the uber rich tougher. At least in America. But then as Uber rich maybe they do not care. They can just move.

TeflonDawg: Just be more like lily-white Colorado, LDO.

Also TeflonDawg: If selling drugs becomes less profitable, the drug dealers will just go to college and learn to code.

I love it.

Way to demonstrate that you can't read

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That's actually good to know about the drink.

R U sure about the roids though ?

I haven't told any lies so it's all good

I am glad you said this, because I think this is why I was banned twice and given an infraction. You, like the mod who came down on me, are reading my posts as if I am saying Breonna was shot because she was involved in drugs. I said they showed up at her door because she was involved in drugs, but that wasn't why she got shot. What you will see in either the last or 2nd to last post before I got banned that I said was that she was shot because she was involved in drugs (that is the reason cops showed up to her house and the fact that she was involved in drugs is not my opinion, but the conclusion that the police, the judge that signed off on the warrant, the AG and nearly everyone else involved in the case came to) and because her bf shot a police officer after they entered her apartment and she was standing next to him (again, this is not my opinion, but the conclusion that the police and the AG came to).

I think the police, at least in this case, did come clean and say they made a mistake and that is why one officer is facing jail time.

I did provide proof that she was involved with drugs. I said to click on the link ITT that had jail house transcripts and written notes from cops about the movement of her, the main drug dealer and others in group.

In conclusion, you are accusing me of 2 things I didn't do. Early on ITT I spoke of some non-public enough (some of which has come to light and other which hasn't yet), but nothing has been proven false. When I was asked to stop sharing non-public facts I did even though there is more that I know that nobody else ITT is likely to know.

Earlier EADGBE stated- and not without merit imo- that some of Ben Shapiro's answers seem unsophisticated and precanned. Your blue comment sounds precanned also- Just a bit too pat. So I'm dismissing that.


So you're a fan of anti Semites. Very strange for a far leftist...
https://www.billboard.com/articles/c...iracy-theories

bahbah's back and still posting his lies, yay.

See, posts like these are why you have no value in a discussion

You're being dishonest and mischaracterizing what I said, and even worse, feel good and righteous about it. You're just full of **** and have revealed that ignorance for your entirety of posting on here and Unstuck. You're a clown and exactly what's wrong with America

I have repeatedly explained to you that your attitude is the problem. YOU are the problem. The laws need to change, and the people will follow suit

But you don't want to talk about that. You want to take my post and twist it into some bullshit intellectually dishonest meme like retort

Change your attitude and be willing to help the problem not hurt. You and every other poster who likes what you have to say. You are not wrong when you complain about some things, you are wrong about the depth and breadth of which you complain about. It doesn't just end at where you point the finger, dude, it goes beyond that and as I've said now for years, these are 20-50 years problems not 4. So either be willing to dig deep or stfu and stay out of the convo, because all you do is spew noise nobody needs to hear

With that specific person? Ya pretty sure.

You STILL don't get it

Breonna Taylor has RIGHTS

You talk about her like she has none

You talk about all her "she's no angel" evidence

And at the time, you spewed all that **** WITH NO CITES. You literally spent time trying to tell us "how criminal she is" on pure speculation. It doesn't matter if it was revealed that she's the ****ing criminal mastermind. The whole point is you didn't care to wait. All you wanted to do was keep talking about all the things that apparently in your mind justify her DEATH

You DO NOT talk about her like she's a human being who has the same rights afforded to ALL of us

It's just so amazing to me how so many people can't see it like I can. Maybe it's because I'm a minority too and have watched cops **** with people, my friends and my family, all while *******s like bahbah yap on the internet about how they were all "doing something wrong" get the **** out of here

Some of the things you said in those posts were flat out lies, bro, and you're still allowed to post here? lol this site is a joke

This is what this thread is reduced to. Noise, where I have to explain basic **** to you instead of have a real conversation about how to reduce police brutality, increase public trust, and just make a cop's job easier all around, subsequently reducing the frequency of interaction with citizens who, you know, would like to sleep in bed without getting shot to death by a bunch of incompetent ****ing cops and then getting a slap on the wrist in the process

They get to see their families. Taylor does not.

But you don't care about that. You care that she did things that are illegal and give the benefit of the doubt to the very institutions who, instead of just admitting they ****ed up, tried to smear her just to save face

And white people expect me to trust the police. How???

Except it's not pure speculation, there is actual evidence that she was involved in the trafficking enterprise. Not as a key player or anything, that is why she was a low value target, and that is why the cops chose to knock, but she wasn't an innocent bystander. She was part of the game.

No, there's not actual evidence. No, they didn't knock. Lies lies lies.

Believe it or not, but the police don't just go busting down random doors in the middle of the night. They got a warrant to search her apartment, ergo there was evidence that she was involved in the drug trafficking ring. Why else were they there? Just for fun? What other motive would they have for doing the raid?

They were targeting Glover, and they knew he had received packages at Taylor's place.

13 out of 14 witnesses said there was no knock.

Guess which 1 witness is the only one right wingers pretend exists.