I think it may point to the dangerous nature of no-knock warrants. You bust into the house of an armed drug dealer, anything may happen...obviously.

There has to be a better way to take suspects into custody. Maybe tear bomb the residence. Wait outside his car.

This feels like a macho arrest.

Bad typo with "wonderful"
Ouch, should have been wrongful

Anyways, the bf was never on the warrant and the cops admit they didn't know he was in the house at the time. So they were busting down the door of some girl's house thinking she's home alone. Sure, she was connected to the drug investigation but did they think she was going to come out blasting if they just knocked on the door at 8pm at night or sat a car at her house waiting for her to come or go and take her into custody and then serve the warrant?
I guess their reason is they were worried about her flushing the product down the toilet before answering the door and calling the trap house to warn them.

Still seems pretty shitty that the cops can kill people and basically claim collateral damage and it's just what happens sometimes especially considering they were serving a warrant for drug possession. Not like she was running guns and **** out of her house.

And then the indictment that does come down is endangering the neighbors. So basically the home invasion went as bad as possible because the occupants started firing on the cops and when the ill trained cops panicked and started spraying bullets back that is now a chargeable offence? If that's the case, why do you even serve that type of warrant on that residence if you're going to be putting your team in a possible legal predicament?
Terrible leadership and decision making.
I don't know what the charges would be but I can relate to people being pissed off that someone dies because of the police lack of thought and planning.
"Sorry guys, we didn't think that far ahead and one of our citizens died because we were a bit overzealous. We'll try to do better next time".

I guess the $12mil is something. Thanks tax payers!

Its heartbreaking to see my hometown burn over such misguided anger. The cops could have acted wrongly (not going to get into that on my phone) but as mentioned it's the whole police procedures that need to be changed. If I'm legally carrying and dudes bust down my door with guns, or no guns, I'm firing on them too. Too quick of action to expect him to stop and analyze the situation before possibly losing your life because other drug dealers (potentially) could be pretending to be cops and stealing your ****.

The whole system, judicial, as well as police need to be completely rethought to be sure the possibility people arent getting murdered in cold blood over possession of ****ing DRUGS . Ugh, louisville will be bad for a while.

Also, the 12 million seemed premature given how the case played out, and while I'm happy they got compensated it seemed wrong they receive it before any decision is made in such a quick turnaround practically admitting guilt. But I'm happy for the family to get some compensation, although 12 million seems a bit outrageous but I suppose they wanted to make a statement. If they wanted to do that they maybe should have prosecuted the cops even if they came out innocent. I dunno, such a tough spot but I saw a business I used to work for being terrorized by a bunch of "protestors" destroying their property....disgusting

Lololol russian style oligarchy. No dude it's just capitalism.

I take it of course you condemn these alleged actions by the evil prosecution?

Cities do tend to settle as a matter of course. I never said anything about the merit/lack thereof of individual cases. A case we discussed recently leading to closed threads settled but the report states they were most likely guilty despite the settlement. Again cities tend to settle as a matter of course and it doesn't really mean anything, regardless of how you feel about this personally.

And crims gonna crim. Legalizing drugs denies them access to insane amounts of revenue which is empowering them more than law enforcement can handle. Of course they'll go on to some other means of illicit income but it won't be as lucrative therefore empowering for them as drugs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlant...t#Demographics
Male: 82%
Female: 18%
African American/Black: 58%
Caucasian/ White: 37%
Hispanic: 4%
Asian: 1%
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7349662/reference

Only middle class latte liberals want the police defunded, those who have to live in high crime areas don't.

If the allegations are true it intimates that the arrest of the McCloskey's is political more than anything else. Apparently Missouri has among the strongest castle doctrine laws in the US which according to journalist Tim Poole was set up originally to protect black people back in the day of racist mobs and lynchings.
https://statelaws.findlaw.com/missou...ld%20be%20able
McCloskey's lived in a private gated community and some protests have become violent or confrontational. Would be tough to prosecute them against such a doctrine.

Did they lie about the shooting of Hakeem Littleton?

When it comes to the poor...



We say that 'Black Lives Matter'
Well truthfully they really never have
No one ever really gave a ****
Just read your bullshit history books
But honestly it ain't just black
It's yellow, it's brown, it's red
It's anyone who ain't got cash
Poor whites that they call trash

They can't, **** with us
Once they realise we're all on the same side
They can't, split us up
And let them prosper off the divide

Don't fall for the bait and switch
Racism is real, but not it
They **** whoever can't fight back
But now we gotta change all that
The people have had enough
Right now, it's them against us
This **** is ugly to the core
When it comes to the poor
No lives matter

How is it that Ice T always plays cops, and not even corrupt ones? Maybe if he played a corrupt one he would have got an Oscar by now, like that Den-zel.

You can have capitalism and wild west style capitalism which does indeed equate to something akin to an oligarchy or at the very least a Plutocracy. I think that was the point Cuepee was making. Capitalism can still be the most viable choice out of a bad lot but can undergo reforms to make it more equitable or beneficial to the majority of society rather than an elite few.

Yeah he's always righteous, now that you mention it. Gives a mean one liner too

It's weird, no way I'd say he's 30 years younger in the second clip than the first. Looks about the same lol.

He's like Patrick Stewart in the sense that he's basically looked the same for three decades

you could not be more wrong. like, how is it that you post on a politics forum and try to pay attention and act like you know stuff and then post something so laughably wrong? is it a mental condition? middle class liberals are pretty much the last people that want the police defunded. I mean, you should be familiar with the recent poll that found Democratic voters found the FBI one of the most trusted entities.

BLM is not middle class latte liberal. rather than just making stuff up in your head, maybe try to read something and pay attention. then you wouldnt be so arrogant. or so wrong.

nice Marxist message there.

Recognising that the concentration of wealth into the hands of a minuscule few is a pertinent issue and how race can be used to divide to prevent people of all races from working together based on their commonalities doesn't mean you're a Marxist and I'm quite sure plenty of capitalists have the same concerns.

Oh but I'm not wrong, even Al Sharpton alluded to this. Comfortable middle class woke liberals from safe suburb neighbourhoods want the police defunded. People from high crime neighbourhoods don't. Lots of BLM members are woke white middle class far leftists. You should be wary of asking others about mental conditions after you assert the gulags were better than the US prison system, as well as being a Communist.

repeating lies does not make them any more true

The police work for the middle and upper classes.

Why would they want to defund them ?

It's the urban poor and lower middle class who live under occupation rules that aren't very happy with their interactions.

Also, blueberry pie.

Without a doubt, I would say government is the more dangerous entity in the balance between Government as regulator and Business as well driver.

Business may wish changes and protections and advantages but it is gov't that gives them the power to grab and keep those things.

Gov't ultimately is the whore and Corporations the rich client. And the whore main item of sale to enrich themselves is the transference of power from citizens to the corporations.

Ha.

No, capitalism defined at its base is simply the ownership of your efforts and output and the ability to trade that with others for other goods and services.

If you have a indigenous person in the heart of the amazon who catches some fish, and he trades some of that fish with another community member for some hunted meat or vegetation, that is capitalism.

it is mutually beneficial.

If you want to argue that Capitalism, especially when gov't allows for the creation of corporations who can lobby, has an inevitable pull towards Oligarchy or abuse, I would say 'sure. The pull will always be there and it will take a very vigilant society and voter to counter it as the corporations have unending cash and and endless time to keep swaying the balance.

The US failed when they removed donation limits on corporations. So much money has hopelessly corrupted the process, but it is leading to a Bernie type revolt in the younger generations. We will see, once they age a bit and do vote on mass if they will be able to retake and reshape America.

I've had a high ranking police officer point blank/dead serious tell me he thinks making buds legal means stoners will start stealing cars etc--because they're just 'criminals'. So, ya a little out of touch with reality Overall the drug biz is so big(and also drives a lot of other crime) that it's kinda hard to see any of the other plausible avenues being close to a 1:1 replacement. Many of those more org groups are already diversified as it is too. Even if other types of crime increased property theft etc--it's still kinda hard to imagine the violence etc sticking around with it. There are some immediate positives that would most likely be more long lasting imo anyway.

While I can see more org. groups potentially focusing on some other form of crime I also think there's a fair bit of bs tossed into that hypothesis as well. Making those arguments are more about job security imo--because they come from a mindset of basically well you'll still need us. And at this point--they're just about the only people left on the other side of the argument