I actually wasn't against the initial GF protests even with the excuse of "other people" were doing the looting. But what exactly has been achieved the past 2 months? What did Seattle prove/show/change?

Santa Clarita is like the tamest place in the world. It was the place that inspired "Weeds" (and filmed there). It's a joke that these yahoos are pulling out an AR on some kids.

I can understand they are getting a call for an assault with a deadly weapon but witnesses are right there screaming they have it wrong. Danger level in the SCV is very low.

Because it intimates that they wouldn't be looting if not angered, which is bs, again it's opportunism, it's not due to anger, stop making excuses for criminality

You might want to check the Seattle thread, because the protests did achieve defunding the police with the money being reinvested elsewhere.

If a man kills his wife because he finds her in bed with a other man, is it "making excuses" to point out he was angry? Seems like stating a fact to me, and hardly making excuses for the crime, but you have some young black men to attack so I guess that means all logic and reason go out the window for you like always!

Man, it's wild to watch right-wingers completely lose their minds in response to me saying that someone was angry. That's all I said. adios and corpus then proceed to lose their **** because they can't handle it!

lol, what is wrong with you people? The only person who said it's okay to commit crimes if you're angry is you, adios. You said that.

I'm not right wing. You were attempting to justify looting, don;t whinge now after being called on it.

1. On anything having to do with race, you are a right-winger.
2. Cite me "attempting to justify looting".

"Right-winger on race." Lol

I'm not any winger when it comes to race as I treat people as I find the based on their character regardless of their background.
2. Cite me "attempting to justify looting".[/QUOTE]
Already did, when you falsely claimed it was due to anger, which is attempting to justify looting.

Quote the post where I "attempted to justify looting", and show which part of it is "attempting to justify looting".

Unless they used to live in Ireland and now live in America. Then all bets are off

It is interesting that the same people who have never seen an American Police Officer kill a black man without justification would be arguing this viewpoint as well.

Yeah Goofy. He is a CNNi watching centrist with a bent towards the progressive side. Duh.

Saying “The looters were angry” justifies looting indicates a language barrier. Perhaps we need someone to bridge that gap so all these “misunderstandings” with CV stop occurring.

I will try an American example. Saying “Those sports fans who stopped watching sports because players were kneeling were angry the uppity athletes did not know their place. That doesn’t mean they stopped watching the sport because they were angry. Clearly they stopped watching it because they were racist.

Pointing out they were angry simply factually identifies one aspect of their state of mind at the time.

Saying Judge Kavanaugh was angry when he raped that coed, does not mean that his anger was responsible for the rape. Maybe the looters were frustrated that police kept killing black people for no reason and that frustration bubbled over. Same with Kavanaugh. Maybe he was frustrated with feeling impotent all the time and he lashed out by raping someone. No matter how we look at these situations anger is never the only factor.

I would argue that being frustrated that black people are being murdered all the time by police does not justify looting.

I would also argue that being frustrated you are impotent doesn’t justify raping women.

To take the last step, I would finally argue that being frustrated that minorities are receiving special treatment is not justification to murder them.

Anger should not excuse behavior but it is also not the only cause for behavior.

It's a very common sort of error. I sympathise with goofy a lot on this as I have often been accused of similar.

One obvious example where the logic is wrong is that we correctly blame easy access to guns for all the gun deaths but that in no way justifies shooting someone. State of mind is a bit more complicated but only in extreme/special cases is state of mind seen as some justification for a crime.

I think once you use a powerful symbol for protest (in this case a nation's flag), there will be controversy. People don't see the same thing in a symbol and they don't see treatment of it identically. That is also the idea I suspect, to generate buzz. Of course as supporters of such a protest would be quick to point out, the protest isn't meant to denigrate the ideals of the flag or the more positive aspects of said symbol. The problem here of course is that you don't really get to dictate what other people see in the flag or how they feel about it.

Does racism play a part? Could very well be, but it is to easy to simply blame that all around. Do some politicians or commentators exploit these emotions to score political points? I would be very surprised if that is not the case, but I suspect that is not happening only on one side of the debate.

Of course ultimately it can also be a sign that there are few outlets available for protest on a subject that will actually be noticed (or at least that this was the case) by decision-makers, which I think is one point people who don't like this particular protest would do well to consider.

Depends on which way and within what context you say it and not an apt comparison- mindless destruction or the arson attacks on police stations might be reasonably argued as being due to anger, robbing materialistic goods is profit motivated, so you don't get to use the anger excuse
Please cite where I have ever attacked young black men thanks.

Can't comment on that but only the way I view people.. What pray tell is the "right wing" attitude toward race?

The one where you responded to 57 and then I responded to you and now here we are.

There isn't one.

Yours.

Well if you think of a few extreme right groups you might surmise.

I don't want to imply that lefties can't be racist. It's just not baked into the philosophy to the same degree.

Except for basically every conservative voter I know/have known complaining about foreigners, the blaxx etc etc at just about every opportunity for ages.
Toss in some iq commentary and a nice dose of ideas about 'their' culture and we could keep going on for quite a bit to round out the picture

The only purpose ascribing the looting as strict opportunism serves is to denigrate Black people and to whitewash the killings of Black people by police. Police killing another of them is no cause to be angry, but wouldn'tcha know it, those conniving and uppity Blacks, who are so often criminals, just happened to seize this opportunity for CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY PROPERTY. Could have happened any time, really, and it was basically an inevitability unless we get some more cops to put knees on necks down in the South Side.

CV, of course, doesn't have a single shred of evidence that this is the case. His characterization is based solely on prejudice.