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Originally Posted by Rococo
CV, I don't think it is incumbent on someone to provide links to support undisputed facts. Someone else confessed to the crime. The DA announced that there was DNA evidence tying that person to the crime. The DA stated that the office believed that the confessor likely acted alone.
These facts are undisputed. You can't make them go away with some sort of "fake news" routine.
If you want to argue that the DA's office was wrong or went in the tank, the onus is on you imo.
The only thing that is undisputed is that there was one person's semen on and in the victim. That there was only one person's semen was not disputed back when the trials were held in 1990, and that fact did not exonerate them back then. 30 years later, there are people shouting "DNA evidence proved they were innocent! You are racist if you disagree!" It is not only just wrong on its face, it is a completely absurd argument when you consider the facts of the case. Trolly conveniently hedges by saying "The CP5 still did not rape that woman", as a way to weasel out a win.
Using the statements of officials that had nothing to do with the investigation or prosecution of the case, and under intense political pressure to publicly exonerate the defendants, bears little weight, especially when you consider that none of the people that
were involved ever said such a thing.
The evidence seems pretty clear that these kids,
at the very least, attacked the Central Park Jogger, just as that large group of kids had been attacking people all night. Did they do all of the damage? No. Did they rape the victim? It's questionable, and I suppose it depends on your definition of rape. Maybe it is just the lawyer in me, but I subscribe to the notion that if a group of people attack and hold down a woman and only one of the people in that group penetrates that victim, that the whole group is guilty of rape. I am not suggesting that is what happened, though there is some evidence that can lead to that conclusion. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, they may have just attacked the woman in a manner with some sexual overtones (as they admitted to fondling her during the attack), left her after beating her unconscious, and the other kid dragged her into a more secluded area and raped her. That would make them not guilty of rape, but hardly innocent victims.
The kids were bragging about what they had done before they were arrested and had given details to the police that the police did not know. Even after they were "exonerated", some of the members of the Central Park Five admitted to attacking the other people in the park that night. I can only hope that the "if you think these kids were anything but innocent victims of racism" line is borne out of lack of knowledge on the subject, and not just weaponized misinformation.
Like a lot of people, I watched "When They See Us", was interested in the subject matter, and made
one Google search. It took about thirty seconds on the Wikipedia page that describes the events to see that the show was full of crap. Unfortunately, such distortions are taken by people, even intelligent people, at face value. You then have the position of people that claim that it is "undisputed" that they are innocent and others just claiming racism of people that question the "these were innocent victims of racism" line.
Last edited by DonkJr; 05-09-2024 at 09:50 AM.