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03-27-2024 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
Well, my brain doesn’t process this as a serious response, probably because my social skills are higher than the other posters in this forum.
But being generous and approaching it as a serious response, I could never imagine thinking a text or post that begins with the phrase “ the list is endless, some things that pop into my head without relitigating the past..” would mean the texter or poster meant to make an authoritative list rather than mention a few things that immediately come to mind. The dozens of instances of sexism that disturbed me most are not mentioned and the reason I did not mention them is that I don’t want to relitigate the past as made very clear in the post.

No one I know would ever respond to a text I made that started with the first sentence in my post/text in that ridiculous way so your response already seems disingenuous to me. As I stated, the list is endless. If I spent a few days looking for incredibly sexist posts the posts printed out on normal sized paper would span the globe.

As for the content of your question, no. I have been to many many bars and clubs and would leave if they approached the level of sexism that 2p2 does. I have never been to a bar or club that comes close.

The problem isn’t a few stray comments or even an overall sexist attitude on 2p2. The problem is that it the overall attitude is so overwhelming that it is unwelcoming even to those who have a tolerance for a certain degree of sexism. It’s insane.
list is so endless you start it with a completely fabricated lie against me, mentioning everyone else was fine with what you described as excusing rape, which is a strong hint that you see sexism and in general you read content in a way that is disaligned with that of the vast majority of people so maybe that is the problem, not necessarily purported sexism (which clearly might have happened in the past, but almost certainly not to the extent you describe).

that's also corroborated by every interaction with you in the actual threads about other topics.
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03-27-2024 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
It sometimes inelegant in context and being nicer is not one of my goals in that scenario. Also, it changes the meaning: if everything someone says is idiotic, then that's nicely encompassed by calling him or her an idiot.
It takes someone really smart to only say idiotic thing.

It's like never backing the winner in a horse race.
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03-27-2024 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
It takes someone really smart to only say idiotic thing.
And yet you somehow manage it.
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03-27-2024 , 08:23 AM
lol rekt
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03-27-2024 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
list is so endless you start it with a completely fabricated lie against me, mentioning everyone else was fine with what you described as excusing rape, which is a strong hint that you see sexism and in general you read content in a way that is disaligned with that of the vast majority of people so maybe that is the problem, not necessarily purported sexism (which clearly might have happened in the past, but almost certainly not to the extent you describe).

that's also corroborated by every interaction with you in the actual threads about other topics.
This you?

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rape allegations have been abused since forever to destroy people and i won't believe any unless it comes from a person I personally know and trust, if there is no direct unassailable evidence.
“any”
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03-27-2024 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
They are.
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03-27-2024 , 08:55 AM
While it's a pretty stupid position, it doesn't come close to "excusing rape". That's a pretty hefty accusation to make, and so far you haven't come close to backing it up.
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03-27-2024 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
This you?



“any”
how is that an endorsement of rape??? not believing purported victims unless there is proof is not ENDORSING THE ACT if it actually happened ffs.

Btw i also clarified the statement was related to famous people or other accusations where blaming someone or a group has a political effect.

How do you jump from "you shouldn't believe accusations of rape not corroborated by objective evidence when moved against a famous person or a politically relevant person or group" to "Luciom excuses rape", what's even the logical sequitur there, how can you move from A to B, there is no connection.

And btw, given i clearly didn't excuse rape in the quote you cited, i am waiting for a full apology for you claiming that i did excuse rape, which is a heinous fabricated accusation with no merits.
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03-27-2024 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
While it's a pretty stupid position, it doesn't come close to "excusing rape". That's a pretty hefty accusation to make, and so far you haven't come close to backing it up.
Ye it is stupid to require actual evidence besides a witness statement to believe a crime actually occurred, except that's how all normal countries do in trials.
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03-27-2024 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
They are.
I hate to break it to you, but seeing misogyny where none exists and being perpetually offended on behalf of others is a sign of neither maturity nor elevated social skills. Your list is laughable, and your attitude of being unwilling to debate it because the point is self-evident in your mind, despite being told you're wrong by virtually everyone ITT is even more so.
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03-27-2024 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Ye it is stupid to require actual evidence besides a witness statement to believe a crime actually occurred, except that's how all normal countries do in trials.
"Actual evidence" and "direct unassailable evidence" are different standards, but you knew that. You take a lot of absolutist positions on a variety of topics which I think is stupid in almost every case.
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03-27-2024 , 09:24 AM
I have unpinned the moderation question thread. It never needed to be pinned in the first place and all it does in practice is turn the thread into a second low content thread.
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03-27-2024 , 09:45 AM
2p2s sexism is unacceptable. It is also normal. I see this kinda talk and way worse at almost every corner of the internet

Women are murdered by men like all the time, it’s shameful to make fun of a woman for mentioning a place is a safe space.

Bars are some of the most sexist places I’ve ever been. Of course men are going to treat women nicely there and try to buy them drinks to get laid. And of course women are going to exploit men for their money and attention. It’s an incredible sexist place that benefits one sex over the other.
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03-27-2024 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Bars are some of the most sexist places I’ve ever been. Of course men are going to treat women nicely there and try to buy them drinks to get laid. And of course women are going to exploit men for their money and attention. It’s an incredible sexist place that benefits one sex over the other.
From your description it sounds like symbiosis. Which sex does it benefit over the other and how?
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03-27-2024 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
From your description it sounds like symbiosis. Which sex does it benefit over the other and how?
symbiosis isnt exclusive of sexism. not sure why you think it matters
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03-27-2024 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
2p2s sexism is unacceptable.
Maybe we could start addressing the issue by banning the problematic posters. I remember, for example, there was this one guy who started a whole thread suggesting that the government should pay for his hookers. That seems pretty sexist on a few different levels.
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03-27-2024 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
symbiosis isnt exclusive of sexism. not sure why you think it matters
I am asking which sex does your scenario benefit over the other and how?
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03-27-2024 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
And yet you somehow manage it.
Thank you but unlikeliy
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03-27-2024 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Maybe we could start addressing the issue by banning the problematic posters. I remember, for example, there was this one guy who started a whole thread suggesting that the government should pay for his hookers. That seems pretty sexist on a few different levels.
wheres the sexism? what do you think sexism means?
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I am asking which sex does your scenario benefit over the other and how?
women benefit over men due to free drinks, easier access to achieve their goals. have you ever been to a bar?
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03-27-2024 , 10:06 AM
Some hot takes there PW, good stuff.
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03-27-2024 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Some hot takes there PW, good stuff.
He never disappoints.
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03-27-2024 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
Well, my brain doesn’t process this as a serious response, probably because my social skills are higher than the other posters in this forum.
But being generous and approaching it as a serious response, I could never imagine thinking a text or post that begins with the phrase “ the list is endless, some things that pop into my head without relitigating the past..” would mean the texter or poster meant to make an authoritative list rather than mention a few things that immediately come to mind. The dozens of instances of sexism that disturbed me most are not mentioned and the reason I did not mention them is that I don’t want to relitigate the past as made very clear in the post.

No one I know would ever respond to a text I made that started with the first sentence in my post/text in that ridiculous way so your response already seems disingenuous to me. As I stated, the list is endless. If I spent a few days looking for incredibly sexist posts the posts printed out on normal sized paper would span the globe.

As for the content of your question, no. I have been to many many bars and clubs and would leave if they approached the level of sexism that 2p2 does. I have never been to a bar or club that comes close.

The problem isn’t a few stray comments or even an overall sexist attitude on 2p2. The problem is that it the overall attitude is so overwhelming that it is unwelcoming even to those who have a tolerance for a certain degree of sexism. It’s insane.
Well we certainly interpret things much differently as we are about as opposite as two people can be - which is obviously fine and i dont mean that in any disrespect. Im going to put you on ignore because these conversations are idiotic and i just dont think its helpful to anyone.
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03-27-2024 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I hate to break it to you, but seeing misogyny where none exists and being perpetually offended on behalf of others is a sign of neither maturity nor elevated social skills. Your list is laughable, and your attitude of being unwilling to debate it because the point is self-evident in your mind, despite being told you're wrong by virtually everyone ITT is even more so.
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Originally Posted by formula72
Well we certainly interpret things much differently as we are about as opposite as two people can be - which is obviously fine and i dont mean that in any disrespect. Im going to put you on ignore because these conversations are idiotic and i just dont think its helpful to anyone.
It should be noted you guys don’t actully want free speech. You want a safe space to act like children. in a way most people would never tolerate.
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03-27-2024 , 10:59 AM
If you disagree with Bryce, it means that you oppose free speech. Don't try to argue that point, as it is self-evident. At least it would be to somebody that has the necessary high social skills.
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03-27-2024 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
It should be noted you guys don’t actully want free speech. You want a safe space to act like children. in a way most people would never tolerate.
In a shocking twist, man who claims that sexism is criticising any woman for basically anything is now claiming it's everyone else who wants safe spaces.

This has **** all to do with free speech or safe spaces and everything to do with you making a mountain out of a molehill to score some virtue signaling points or for whatever other motive you might have.

Where are all these people who wouldn't tolerate the things on your list (except #1, which turned out to be a lie)? I've not seen any round here or IRL, male or female.
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