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07-13-2024 , 02:42 PM

#4476

PointlessWords

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

From wiki

These are military casualties

USA losses 400k

UK 383

SU 10m

Poland 300k

Japan 2m

Italy 300k

Germany 5m

China 3.5m

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07-13-2024 , 02:44 PM

#4477

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PointlessWords

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

From wiki

USA losses 400k

UK 383

SU 10m

Poland 300k

Japan 2m

Italy 300k

Germany 5m

China 3.5m

Yes, it's well known Russian leaders use their men as cannon fodder and have a no retreat policy. They're doing it now in Ukraine. What do you think the casualty count proves?

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07-13-2024 , 02:44 PM

#4478

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

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Happy birthday, gangsta, and belated happy birthday, didace

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07-13-2024 , 02:45 PM

#4479

Victor

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now thats some legit amazing propaganda.

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07-13-2024 , 02:46 PM

#4480

Crossnerd

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Now then. To the rest of you, Victor has recently served a lengthy sentence and he has been on good behavior since returning.

You are all welcome to challenge the content he posts, but the personal comments need to stop right now. It’s not productive to our community and does nothing to foster community engagement.

It should also be considered that anyone who intentionally attempts to troll someone to their tipping point is going to get the same infractions or penalties as the other person.

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07-13-2024 , 02:47 PM

#4481

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

It's just bullying, all the time, of the same person. It's not nice to see.

If you want to be an arrogant, controversial figure, you're going to get the reaction you campaigned for. That's not bullying, it's how humans interact with one another. Subsequently playing the victim card is pathetic and Trump-esque.

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07-13-2024 , 02:48 PM

#4482

PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Yes, it's well known Russian leaders use their men as cannon fodder and have a no retreat policy. They're doing it now in Ukraine. What do you think the casualty count proves?

what metric would you need to see to convince you that the the Nazis couldn’t have been beaten without the Soviets?

What metric to agree that Soviets did over 50% of fighting?

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07-13-2024 , 02:48 PM

#4483

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by Crossnerd

What personal comments? Every comment I have seen has been criticising Victor's views.

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07-13-2024 , 02:49 PM

#4484

PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Bruh, I don't think you are really in a position to be commenting on others' reading comprehension in general, or in this instance specifically.

Wanna bet on my highest lsat score? I haven’t taken it yet.

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07-13-2024 , 02:49 PM

#4485

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PointlessWords

what metric would you need to see to convince you that the the Nazis couldn’t have been beaten without the Soviets?

What metric to agree that Soviets did over 50% of fighting?

Wtf dude. Do you understand the difference between "Stalin defeated Hitler" and "The allies couldn't have defeated Hitler without Stalin"? Do you think these mean the same thing?

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07-13-2024 , 02:50 PM

#4486

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords

Wanna bet on my highest lsat score? I haven’t taken it yet.

I have no idea what it is, but I'll bet that I can beat you on it.

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07-13-2024 , 02:51 PM

#4487

rickroll

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PointlessWords

what metric would you need to see to convince you that the the Nazis couldn’t have been beaten without the Soviets?

What metric to agree that Soviets did over 50% of fighting?

nothing you wrote here was being discussed, go back and start over

try to understand what people are talking about before you try to tell us you got it all figured out first

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07-13-2024 , 02:51 PM

#4488

Crossnerd

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D2, you yourself admitted at the top of this page that you are engaging in mockery.

This isn’t a debate. I’m telling you to stop.

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07-13-2024 , 02:51 PM

#4489

rickroll

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Wtf dude. Do you understand the difference between "Stalin defeated Hitler" and "The allies couldn't have defeated Hitler without Stalin"? Do you think these mean the same thing?

damn, slow ponied

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07-13-2024 , 02:52 PM

#4490

PointlessWords

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It’s called a Work in progress

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07-13-2024 , 02:52 PM

#4491

Victor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d2_e4

Wtf dude. Do you understand the difference between "Stalin defeated Hitler" and "The allies couldn't have defeated Hitler without Stalin"? Do you think these mean the same thing?

how literal are you guys going to take this?

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07-13-2024 , 02:53 PM

#4492

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossnerd

D2, you yourself admitted at the top of this page that you are engaging in mockery.

This isn’t a debate. I’m telling you to stop.

Of his views, yes. Not of him. I have not made any personal remarks about the poster, so I don't know what you're telling me to stop.

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07-13-2024 , 02:53 PM

#4493

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

how literal are you guys going to take this?

Well, you subsequently stated you meant "90%", so pretty literally.

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07-13-2024 , 02:54 PM

#4494

Victor

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pretty soon they will deboonk it by saying that I meant that Stalin personally killed millions of German soldiers and then shot Hitler in the head.

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07-13-2024 , 02:56 PM

#4495

BOIDS

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soviets provided the manpower, usa provided the everything else, both were essential

in 1943 alone the usa produced more aircraft than germany had produced in its entire history

also in 1943 alone the usa produced more naval tonnage than every other combatant combined since the start of the war

god bless the usa, greatest country in the world, could've easily sat out and watched while the rest of the world (and my great grandparents on ma's side specifically) turn into dust, but instead it stepped up and saved the world

Last edited by Crossnerd; 07-13-2024 at 03:14 PM. Reason: Removed personal comment, next one will be a ban

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07-13-2024 , 02:56 PM

#4496

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

pretty soon they will deboonk it by saying that I meant that Stalin personally killed millions of German soldiers and then shot Hitler in the head.

Lol dude, everyone can see exactly what you wrote in this thread in the last few hours, you know this, right? Why are you trying to pretend that you meant something completely different now?

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07-13-2024 , 03:00 PM

#4497

Victor

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Soviets did about 90% to win the war and would have won without lend-lease. thats it.

you can quibble over the 90% figure. maybe it was only 80%!

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07-13-2024 , 03:01 PM

#4498

PointlessWords

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Hyperbole

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07-13-2024 , 03:01 PM

#4499

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PointlessWords

It’s called a Work in progress

Maybe complete the work before you post your thoughts about how everyone else is wrong on the matter?

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07-13-2024 , 03:02 PM

#4500

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

Soviets did about 90% to win the war and would have won without lend-lease. thats it.

you can quibble over the 90% figure. maybe it was only 80%!

Ok, so we're back to you owning the claim you made (if leaving yourself some room to walk it back mildly), this is progress.

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