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Yesterday , 10:13 PM
Everything he posted via PM seemed fine and not special regarding KS family or whatever. If it was that private he wouldn’t share it with a stranger on the internet? What’s wrong with having Bi polar? I don’t get it
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Yesterday , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
King Spew has made all sorts of bad moderating decisions so we should be looking at his extra hard fwiw.
I dont think he has. Id prefer to not see victor eat a 1 monther but if this was the old P, you, vic, PW, kel, and lucioum and jal would be gone by now.

...and i legitimately enjoy reading posts from all of them.
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Today , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 72off
yeah i just meant how there's nothing regarding pms. but the part about revealing personal information can be interpreted to fit here i guess


i was more responding to everyone acting as if it's obviously a perma to ever reveal anything in a pm, and i'm just wondering where they got that from, because i haven't seen that written anywhere on this site
(not saying it isn't, it might be ... somewhere)
There's no reason for me to think that was even a partial reason he was banned, and I have no idea why people are assuming it was the only or even the main reason.

He was repeatedly breaking rules in every thread he participated in, and then making the same complaints about moderation over and over.

Our friendly moderator even admitted that she should have banned him before he shared the PM. If anything, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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Today , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Didace
How can you define "clearly said in confidence"? In the real world, people usually indicate somehow that what is being discussed is confidential. Either by saying so or by the content of the discussion (e.g. medical info). Just because it's a one-on-one conversation is not what makes it confidential. How many times have two posters been talking about something and they are told "take it to PMs"? Are these necessarily "private"? I think more often than not it is okay to relate what was in a PM that said, "Hey just joking. I know they're idiotic but I just can't stop with the inane one-liners" I would for sure share it with the group. But if he said, "Hey sorry, I've been really tense since losing my job. Please don't tell anyone" then that would obviously be confidential.
Like with most things moderator-related, it's pretty subjective. There will be times when it's obvious, and times when it's not.

Personally, I try to err on the side of assuming PMs are meant to be private and generally won't share unless I know it's OK to do so. But when I send PMs, I am aware that not everyone feels the same way and thus try not to send anything that would cause problems for me if they were to become public. It's a subject about which people have very different feelings.

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Originally Posted by Didace
Just because back in the day, one-to-one messages on the internet were labeled "private" doesn't mean that it should be some kind of barrier to passing on the conversation.
FWIW, this isn't a "back in the day" issue - messages here are still labelled "Private Messages". That said, I agree that this doesn't mean they can never be shared under any circumstances.

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Everything he posted via PM seemed fine and not special regarding KS family or whatever.
Great. That's you.

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
If it was that private he wouldn’t share it with a stranger on the internet?
There can be all sorts of reasons someone might share something private with a stranger that they wouldn't want posted publicly. It's fine if you don't agree with that, but they don't need to justify it to you. Everyone is different.

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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
What’s wrong with having Bi polar?
Who said there was anything wrong with it? People wanting to keep certain information private doesn't imply anything good or bad about that information.


And to be clear, I'm not weighing in on whether this particular ban was justified or not. I don't find the ban surprising given what was posted, and jbouton's history, but I'm not in a place to judge it. I'm just trying to provide a little clarity, or at least some background, regarding the sharing of private messages.
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Today , 12:39 AM
I agree with what you said. I still feel as if it’s an overreaction. Also how can one know what’s true or not about what KS says? And what if this is bait , ya know so JB posts it and gets banned?
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Today , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Pretty ridiculous that people are trying to argue KS wouldn't want to keep his experiences with family mental health issues out of the public forum.

And why did Bouten feel it was appropriate to share ithe pm in its entirety? What did he prove with it?
I think he was upset about the part where KS asked about his therapist.

But as already pointed out, jbouton had already made an entire thread about how he has Tourette's Syndrome so wanted to get some kind of special treatment here.

I don't know if people with TS generally need a therapist or not, but he was definitely having trouble making himself understood here (then blaming everyone except himself for the problem).
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Today , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Everything he posted via PM seemed fine and not special regarding KS family or whatever. If it was that private he wouldn’t share it with a stranger on the internet? What’s wrong with having Bi polar? I don’t get it
As pointed out repeatedly in the trans thread not so long ago, many people consider any mental illnesses to be stigmatization.
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Today , 01:14 AM
FWIW, I don't think King Spew's private message was particularly offensive given the many posts responding to jb which explicitly said something about his mental health. The very recent "don't stigmatize his mental health" post ultimately clued him in that he could use a PM as ammunition to prove that he is being unfairly attacked on these forums by a big bad mod.

If somebody has legitimate serious mental health issues, I don't think it would be nice to take shots at them belittling their condition. I personally thought that people that were replying aggressively to Lirva a few months ago, when he was clearly in serious mental distress, were way out of line. Other than being obsessive and extremely annoying, we don't really have any evidence of jb actually suffering from mental health issues, so it seems to me that he is doing the whole "throw rocks and hide under mom's skirt" thing when he whines incessantly about being a victim when at the same time he makes a dozen posts a day attacking other posters.
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Today , 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
I agree with what you said. I still feel as if it’s an overreaction. Also how can one know what’s true or not about what KS says? And what if this is bait , ya know so JB posts it and gets banned?
Another great theory: JB only caught another ban because he was entrapped!
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Today , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
FWIW, I don't think King Spew's private message was particularly offensive given the many posts responding to jb which explicitly said something about his mental health. The very recent "don't stigmatize his mental health" post ultimately clued him in that he could use a PM as ammunition to prove that he is being unfairly attacked on these forums by a big bad mod.

If somebody has legitimate serious mental health issues, I don't think it would be nice to take shots at them belittling their condition. I personally thought that people that were replying aggressively to Lirva a few months ago, when he was clearly in serious mental distress, were way out of line. Other than being obsessive and extremely annoying, we don't really have any evidence of jb actually suffering from mental health issues, so it seems to me that he is doing the whole "throw rocks and hide under mom's skirt" thing when he whines incessantly about being a victim when at the same time he makes a dozen posts a day attacking other posters.
I don't think being an insufferable dolt with a persecution complex is a legitimate mental health issue, but I'll defer to the experts.
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Today , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Another great theory: JB only caught another ban because he was entrapped!


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Today , 07:41 AM
If only JB looked as good as CZJ in a catsuit doing yoga moves in a room full of laser beams.
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Today , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
If only JB looked as good as CZJ in a catsuit doing yoga moves in a room full of laser beams.
Bouton is the Connery character in this scenario, CZJ is King Spew!
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Today , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4


Aren't the pictures in the wrong spots here? It looks like jbouton trapping KS.
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Today , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Aren't the pictures in the wrong spots here? It looks like jbouton trapping KS.
No lol. You guys have forgotten the film. The chick is the investigator.
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Today , 07:49 AM
If only CZJ looked as good as King Spew in a catsuit doing yoga moves in a room full of laser beams.
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Today , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
No lol. You guys have forgotten the film. The chick is the investigator.
I thought she was stealing something, that's why she's dodging the security laser beams.
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Today , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
No lol. You guys have forgotten the film. The chick is the investigator.
I may have forgotten the plot but not the scene.
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Today , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I thought she was stealing something, that's why she's dodging the security laser beams.
Yes, she is. It's all very complicated. Just trust me on this one.
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Today , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
I may have forgotten the plot but not the scene.
Likewise. Had to wikipedia that **** to make sure I got it the right way round lol.
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Today , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
FWIW, this isn't a "back in the day" issue - messages here are still labelled "Private Messages".
The issue has now been thoroughly covered, but I'd like to add that original names tend to stick even if they don't accurately describe something. Podcast would be an example - iPods aren't exactly the main way to listen these days but the name endures.
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Today , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 72off
where's the rule against posting private messages? like i get that it's a questionable thing to do, but i don't see any rule in the guidelines post that says you will be banned permanently if you make private messages public, or anything about pms.
I will never understand some people's insistence on knowing whether there is a specific rule for everything. There will never be a specific rule for everything. 2+2 isn't a taxonomy project.
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