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Originally Posted by EADGBE
I don't think you are quite understanding what he received the warning for.
I have not taken any umbrage with any opinion or argument posted by Kel. I am not even taking a position on whether his argument is right or wrong. However there is a consistent pattern of presenting certain events as fact, that are verifiably not, in order to support his narrative.
We cannot and should not be arbiters of truth, but facts are facts. I think this is more akin to asking someone to stop posting conspiracy theory links rather than some sort of crackdown on dissenting opinion as you seem to perceive it to be.
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Originally Posted by well named
I think the distinction you're making might be a little too thin, given the normal vagaries of communication. I'm not sure there's much difference in practice. But I'm also just going by what you've said about things, so Im sure I'm missing a lot. Take it for whatever you think it's worth.
FWIW, which should be near zero, from me, I think the defining line here is 'people representing positions that are opinion as if fact, and suggesting they have access to some facts but they are just not sharing them'.
That really irks some people while others seemed nonplussed by it.
I am of those who gets extremely irked with that and have called many people on this forum for it. It draws me in like a laser when if they simply made the same point but caveated as opinion, I would have zero issue. I might still disagree but would have zero issue with them holding a differing opinion.
On another forum, a long, long time ago I had other posters ask why it bothered me so much, why I took it so literally, and my view is, that it IS literal. Once you claim fact, substantiate it. Present.
Meaningful debate (whatever that may actually be on such forums) dies, IMO, if we all just site everything as proven fact (but I cannot cite) and are countered by other facts (they cannot cite). What is to debate beyond that.
So I agree with any moderation that addresses that, but then that is my bias and pet peeve, so of course I would.