Well, yeah. I agree. I'm just saying that no doing something unhealthy doesn't cause 'harm'.

It's unfair and doesn't fix the problem. Education and subsidizing healthy alternatives is probably a better tact.

And healthy food for school lunches seems like a no brainer to me. But the unhealthy slop is cheaper.

Oh yeah, I don't disagree. There's certainly no tangible harm done by not having menthol cigarettes. I guess you might be sucking a little bit of joy out of some smoker's life in the short-term but that's about it.

Actually the school lunches thing has been quite prominent over here recently with so many kids not being in school. For one, it's a chance for kids to actually taste and learn about what healthy food is, and also for kids with the worst backgrounds it can be the only proper meal they're getting. You'd think feeding hungry children would be one of those no-brainer problems for society but it turns out not so much. It's probably a lot easier to be seen to deal with public health by banning menthols over increasing public spending on school dinners though.

I'm old eneough to remember proper freshly prepared and cooked school dinners. Before they brought in 'cafeteria style' burgers, sausages and chips for all

Not 100% sure but I assume thatcher was to blame.

I also remember candy cigarettes as a kid. They got banned which I dont object to at all but struggle to believe mattered very much.

We all know that by freshly prepared and cooked you mean pie and mash and stewed eels.

But in American the only use the poor have is to profit off of. Be it the police or the political donors who get the lunch contracts.

We can't actually all work to build a society we're proud of. That would make us 'European' or something. And no one likes Europeans.

People had mixed views on it and cooking for a big school aint going to be michelin star. But there was lots of veg and when they served mashed potato it was made from real potatoes that had been peeled and mashed that very day.

There was a fair bit of spam, I assume because someone hated kids, but it could be avoided.

I dont think my school was posh enough to serve eels.

I'm old enough to remember those great school lunches, too!

By High School it was burgers, hot dogs and chips.

Probably Reagan to blame here in California (he was Governor at the time).


I remember candy cigarettes, too.

/nostalgia hour

Big League Chew still flying under the radar somehow.

The harm I was thinking about would come in the long run. At what point do people really start questioning their lack of freedoms? Yeah, Menthol cigarettes are bad for you. So are regular cigarettes. And fast food and too much caffeine. And gambling (for most people, not us we're all totes poker stars ). Will the Nanny State come after these in the future?

Grape was my go-to in Little League. It didn't translate to chewing real tobacco though. That stuff is terrible.

I mostly brought my sandwich like a good lad.

I remember eating some slop once in a while. I would have preferred stewed eels.

Well, there is a very good argument to be made to bad smoking/tabacco use as a health issue. I don't think it can ever really be done though and you'll just have more poor people and poc's dying at the hands of police in the long run.

So sure. You are making a valid point. Society sets rules though, they always have and always will. We all get one vote. As I said, banning menthol is silly. I think banning sugar is silly too although I do think school lunches should be good for the kids eating them.

Can you imagine.....I smell tobacco, can you step out of the car....Bang, bang, bang.

No wonder you didn't make the majors.

Looking forward to the Big City Utopia's that will result from defunding the police.

Yes, enforcing a tobacco ban is exactly like not having a police force to protect life and property.

I think Jesus said if you break one little bit of the law you're on the hook for the whole thing. Which is exactly when I started enjoying life.

Oh ya, the gum is pretty crappy. It's ok for like a minute--then just kinda falls apart. I was thinking more about the presentation--pouch/shredded it's pretty similar to a pouch of shredded tobacco--at least as comparable as candy cigarettes imo. I mean candy cigarettes were just little sugar sticks with a red tip lol in a box that kinda resemble a pack of cigarettes--the bubble gum ones in the paper wrapper were awesome though.

When I was a little kid I would buy candy cigarettes and put it in my mouth and then say things like”here’s the deal, see?” And “ you’re breaking my balls here” . To me as a 6 year old candy cigarettes seemed linked to scenes with the mob boss smoking a cigar in movies. Unban candy cigarettes. Unban menthols.

wait you cant just admit you are wrong on the internet.

anyway, watch Goodfellas, they are knocking off cigarette trucks all the time.

heroin?

When I was a kid I used to love candy cigarettes and pretending like I was smoking. I then proceeded to not smoke a single actual cigarette my entire life.

That is amazing sir

They should make the menthol smokers do duty in parks cleaning up dog ****.

While they are at it. Ban McDonalds, ban Burger king and Taco Bell and all the joints. If you're looking at numbers they do way more harm.

Those are just dealers to addicts. And it f them up. Maybe ban alcohol and poker and sugar and cars, because people can't drive. And what about banning guns. It's use is killing people. How could they overlook this.

I found it odd that I could not get any menthol cigarettes in Europe. They are ahead with banning them. I knew my friends in the USA smoked them. KOOL and Newport.

Quick Google search:
"Can you still buy menthol cigarettes in Europe?
The European Union Revised Tobacco Products Directive (TPD) has banned the manufacture and sale of menthol cigarettes. Despite Brexit, this ban also applies to the UK and includes capsule, click on, click & roll, crushball or dual menthol cigarettes, and excludes vaping and heated tobacco products"

How's the reputation of vaping in the US these days?

So you allow this in the USA but you ban menthol cigarettes? For real?

For those who don't want to watch the video, 50 calibre weapons are sold freely in most of the USA. They do have no legitimate use other than killing people or taking down helicopters. Cant ban those?