This is one of many reasons you're not in academia.

Victor, if you are going to make this sort of accusation, you need to back it up with evidence. And by evidence, I mean something more than "conservatives want her gone and conservatives are generally supportive of Israel."

I agree with you that most people are not going to be especially worked up by the allegations of plagiarism, although I think a couple of the examples will seem egregious to academics.

this is my perception. I follow stuff on twitter and saw the pro-Israel accounts posting about this a few days ago. it didnt take hold at first bc the first accusations were weak. it looks like they dug into her past more and found worse issues.

its not something that can be confirmed. and certainly not by me. I am not an investigative reporter. and I would never convince anyone on this forum.

but I didnt say anything about conservatives. I think Israel wants her gone and is the driving force. Israel wants to make an example of her. if its the conservatives wielding the knife then whatever. college campuses are being cracked down on hard for pro-Palestinian stuff and this women was not properly pro-ISrael and anti-Palestine so shes gotta go.

The Venn diagram of right wing American twitter personalities that would be hyper-critical of a "woke academic DEI hire" (in their words) and who generally support Israel over Palestinians (as the Palestinian cause is coded progressive) has a lot of overlap. Claiming "Israel" is the driving force over the attention against her is pretty specious (unless you consider Jewish American alumni of Harvard as "Israel"). I wonder how many Israelis even know who she is.

Regardless, right wing Twitter going HAM is not surprising at all. The MSM being so interested on past plagiarism is interesting IMO.

i mean, it's a fairly logical link that conservative politicians were attacking the president's of the universities to the point where elise stefanik is keeping some kind of scoreboard of how many she get's removed... and then a plagiarism scandal is also suddenly thrust forward on one of the people on the "scoreboard".. this isn't even tinfoil enough for lucky to be interested..

the recent joe rogan thing is a perfect encapsulation of the issues i see in media today.

misattribute a quote to a person you dont like on your MASSIVE platform, say it's ridiculous and disqualifying and use it to justify your opinion that biden is incompetent.
find out the quote is actually from the person you do like, say it must be a joke or not that big of a deal since it was actually Trump that said it.
say that the first fake quote is MORE believable because reasons and that it COULD be true.
say that the media is driving narratives that make you think it could be true.

Marcia Gay has gotta go. Has nothing to do with political leanings or Israel. If she doesn't go, just more of a double standard at a "progressive" college.

Its not driven by random Israelis. its driven by AIPAC and ADL and or other lobby groups who support Israel. see the article by Lee Fang about the tech guys who led witch hunts to harass and fire low level workers. they have been getting Westerners canceled and fired for years.

You are arguing AIPAC, ADL (and Israeli intelligence?) is driving right wing Twitter to criticize Claudine Gay?

I obviously agree that conservatives are leading the charge. That was my point. Victor was claiming that it was all done at the behest of "the Israel lobby."

the first mentions of it that I saw were from pro-Israel accounts on twitter and that was days before it took off. if you dont think those 2 groups dont work hand in hand then I dont know what to tell you.

School is standing behind her but cracks are emerging . If she was student she would be gone by now . I would argue if she was white she would be gone by now

My point is that conservatives have been interested in putting Ivy League heads on pikes for approximately the last 40 years. The focus now is on failure to address antisemitism, which obviously overlaps more with groups that are mainly concerned about Israel. But there have been other rallying issues in the past, including wokeness, gender ideology, critical race theory, alleged censorship of conservative political views, rejection of the classical Western canon, and moral relativism.

Some of the criticism is deserved. Some of it (a lot of it) is just an extension of an anti-intellectualism that is increasingly pervasive in the modern GOP.

She gone

what's amusing is the Biden/Harris combo the conservatives hate so much is the first non IVY league ticket in like 40 years.. the republicans only run all the IVY leaguers they pretend to hate.

And the MSM is staying totally silent about that!!11!1!1!!

Given the Ivy League colleges are essentially super lucrative hedge funds with small side institutions of education they use to not pay taxes on their investment income, I assume you are critical of them too?

Well technically not gone she just steps down as President and has a new job with the same salary .
Nice gig if you can get it

Depends what you mean by critical, I guess. I generally think the education value of the actual schooling is overblown to a large degree. But the paper you get at the end has a lot of accumulated value in most people’s eyes. I think that the conservative outrage at least by the congresscritters and the judges is all for show, they’ll keep giving the Ivy League schools the boost when they hire aids/staffers/clerks.

I don’t think there is any indoctrination or whatever nonsense happening. The idea that higher education leans left isn’t about indoctrination it’s about reason and logic expanding horizons vs small mindedness. When exposed to other people and cultures outside of their original sphere most young people realize the Republican narratives are fraudulent, hate filled grifts..


I agree that Most universities are realestate hedge funds, some like Liberty, are just more open/less successful at keeping it a secret than others.

Yale owns have of New Haven and pays no property tax. Obviously the MSM isn't going to be bringing it up very much, but not really much of a secret.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bil...?intcmp=tw_fnc

I will say you know that Fox News does not like you when they are writing a hit piece and decide to use your name in the title when they could have used Hillary Clinton and/or Chuck Shumers.

If
According to the MSM, New Haven s properties are valued at just south of 18 billion.

Before the latest citywide revaluation, meanwhile, closer to 60 percent of all New Haven real estate value was tax-exempt.

According to Pullen, Yale University owns $4.3 billion of the city’s non-taxable property. By contrast, the city owns $2.4 billion, Yale-New Haven Hospital owns $1.3 billion, and the state owns $1 billion.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...WahT0JHX1LkRw-

https://nypost.com/2024/01/07/metro/...s-during-game/

--Cliffnotes: In a girls basketball game in NY City, players on the home team were continually verbally abusing players on the other team with antisemitic slurs, to the point the game was cancelled and security had to step in.

Except for the Daily Beast, it did not appear any leftwing MSM publication has any interest in the story, and instead right wing media is running with it on their own. Shocking I know the leftwing MSM wouldn't find this to be a newsworthy story.

What is even more interesting, is that the photos of the players who were the abusers were blurred out, while the victims faces were shown. I dont know what goes into deciding what to show and what to blur out, especially when it comes to minors. But if I was one of the players who was being abused, or their parents, the last thing I would want in this climate is to have their picture flooded all over social media. Almost seems like the goal is to single out Jews for further abuse, while protecting the abusers.

The picture with the player blurred was from a different game.

I'm not sure why you think this is more than a local story.

how many Jewish 6 year olds have been stabbed to death in America lately? how many Jews have been turned to paraplegics with gunshots lately?