Those two are just able to understand the true messages from the elites through all the narratives, counter narratives and counter counter narratives of the MSM from their YouTube and twitter accounts.

The proper preamble for every Dunyian post.

Not so. Most of his posts are trivial to disprove.

Checkmate! Gg.

Thanks. The issue is that the article is pretty heavily theorizing which leads wide range of possible interpretations, like this ...

The two of you seem to have a strong difference of opinion on whether Musk is part of the establishment and whether the current trajectory of X is planned or a disruption.

If I take this argument in good faith, I could easily reach an assumption that there seems to be a lot of disagreement on who and what is the establishment + zero evidence of particular people involved (which is kind of a big one, imo). That would make me think that it doesn't seem wise to put some much conviction in saying that the establishment was involved when so little seems to be agreed upon or proven.

When Kelhus talks about "the establishment," he's talking about the Soros Lizard People who secretly control the world.

Good cover, i was about to throw our hard drives in the tub

I dont think there is any plan. I would say it is more akin to "The Last of Us" where everyone gets infected by the same mind virus and zombie walk in unison towards no particular endpoint.

This is Elon

The homepage of CNN right now has a big banner reading "Brutality of Hamas' terror laid bare." This liberal media being so anti-Israel is confusing.

MSNBC , BBC and Canada's CBC refuse to call Hamas terrorists ???

so?

I actually think recent events have caused The Establishment to shift course, and it is happening in real time. As Yarvin talks about, is not like The Establishment (Cathedral) is some unmoving monolith that never evolves. It does, but interestingly the various components of it tend to move/evolve in unison.

In 1950 The Establishment operated in unison, and in 2023 it still does. But The Establishment itself has evolved a lot in that period. It is actually kind of fascinating how it appears the far left BLM/Free Palestine types, who were so openly supported by The Establishment 2 years ago, are starting to be left holding the bag.

Could you imagine being a Free Palestine senior college student activist who has been saying pretty much the same thing the last 4 years, and being lauded and celebrated for it the entire time, and never being challenged at all, now finding out you are getting a job offer rescinded because of your activism, which if nothing else has been consistent.

Wild times.

Is "The Establishment" an organisation like SPECTRE, Kel?

Also -

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Telling us to read an article and substitute cathedral for establishment doesn't answer any of our questions but much more importantly, the article doesn't help to support or prove any of the claims you make - like whether elon musk is part of the group.

I am claiming his ownership of X is interfering with the Establishment's ability to control the narrative. You can disagree. We obviously cant do an experiment where we time shift, he doesn't buy X, and then we see whether this is accurate or not.

In other news, I am not into it anymore, but I kind of got into MMA 10-15 years ago, and have fond memories of watching Jake Shields fight. That being said, out of nowhere the "X" algorithm think I am super interested in his hot takes on how we give Israel too much support, and is showing me a lot of them. I mean, Jake is entitled to his opinion as much as the next guy. Just seems so random the algorithm thinks he is someone who's opinion I might value on this topic.

So what we have is the NYT running a very inflammatory story with nothing but the word of Hamas to support the story, and then for the chef's kiss they take a picture of a completely different event to add a fake visual to the fake story.

I think this kind of encapsulates the sorry state of MSM journalism in 2023.

The next time I complain that the MSM is slow-rolling a story for ideological purposes, and the usual suspects come in to defend them by saying they are just taking their time to get the story right, remember how much getting it right meant in this instance, which is 100000000X more important than some run of the mill story suppressing that a murder suspect is BIPOC.

guilt by association fallacy.

U maybe finally find 1 good example of bad journalism and then you condemn all the mainstream media’s .

I could probably tho show thousand of accurate articles from all the mainstream media’s to compensate for your 1 lonely example …
Just to put into perspective .

My point is u do not need much proof to confirm your bias and
Conspiracies.

Donald Trump’s authoritarian rhetoric hasn't let up

Trump previews a crackdown on press freedoms

It’s at least the second time in as many months that Trump has suggested the federal
government intervene with the free press by stripping stations' broadcast licenses.

“I say up front, openly, and proudly, that when I WIN the Presidency of the
United States, they and others of the LameStream Media will be thoroughly scrutinized.”

A clear indicator of Trump's intentions toward press freedoms should he return to the White House.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/re...ant-rcna120871

Putin and XI jinping would be proud …..

What is going on in the EU and Canada right now isn't much different...

Canada huh????

The truth about crime that Fox News doesn’t want you to know

Fox News practically turned itself into The Crime Channel, airing 193
segments about crime in the single week before the midterm elections.

Mean World Syndrome:
People watching endless crimes on television — in both fictional portrayals
and the news — believe that the world is much more dangerous than it is.

Today, conservative outlets portray the world in the meanest possible terms,
to keep their audiences in a state of fear and agitation while they
push conservative policy solutions. Republican politicians do the same

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...ear-rcna121384

Using MSNBC to criticize Fox A network that did what your saying Fox did for 4 years 24 hours a day

Yeah crimes down that’s why big box retailers are pulling out of regions