No joke, Kelhus could easily monetize his racist trolling like Hanania if he wasn't so lazy. It'd steal his posts and start my own Substack if I didn't have a rudimentary set of ethics I try to live by.

You know more about the hit pieces than I do. Left wing hit pieces that just go after the person that don't address actual arguments dont interest me too much. I am more interested in why the hit pieces are coming out than the content of the pieces themselves.

As you know, I dont accept the moral paradigms establishment elites have constructed for us. I find them extremely hypocritical, self serving, and ultimately divisive and counterproductive towards moving us in any positive direction. Al Sharpton led an actual Pogrom against Jews in New York, never apologized, and 2 decades later was shaking hands with the Democratic President. And I am supposed to be outraged at what Richard Hanania (an absolute nobody in the big scheme of things) wrote on some anonymous right wing blog when he was 20 years old?

I find most of the "anti-white" rhetoric and social movements (See BLM movement of 2020) that the left often embraces (often based on alternative truths that aren't actually true) at least as bad as anything Hanania has written. In many ways much worse because establishment elites promote it, endorse is, double down when it clearly isn't working, and it is so societally destructive.

posted a link from a mainstream news source

It was awkwardly worded, and your comment probably wasn't made in good faith regardless, but FWIW I meant the actual armed insurrection (where at least one police officer has been shot and the domestic terrorist killed in return fire) that has been going on in Georgia for months (years?) hasn't gotten much attention.

Kelhus, I guess that means the actual answers to my questions are

You have no reason to believe they are accurate or inaccurate. You draw no inferences one way or the other from his admissions.

You don't know and you don't care.

* * *

Does that sum it up?

Doctor Zeus,

This is a long running bit with Kelhus. He says that things aren't being covered by the MSM. Then, when confronted with overwhelming evidence to the contrary, he dissembles, says it is a question of degree, or whatever.

Kelhus,

I guess we can play this game one more time. Here are seven articles/podcasts from just the NYT on "Cop City" in Atlanta, all before the recent indictment on RICO charges:

https://www.nytimes.com/article/cop-...-protests.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/28/p...-cop-city.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/04/u...-training.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/u...ding-vote.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/05/u...-protests.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/18/u...er-killed.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/o...-protests.html

If I wanted to spend the time, we all know that I could find a zillion articles from other MSM outlets.

Kelhus, instead of annoying the same dozen or so posters with the same tired schtick you could be making thousands and thousands of dollars publishing racism screeds on Substack like your guy Hanania.

I kinda like the idea of just copying his posts onto some right wing site if those numbers he gave are anywhere near realistic. At the very least, I certainly don't have the moral compunction about it that you do.

In a word...




...no

Agreed.

In the previous article that Kelhus cited, this guy had the following advice for the Republican party:

That's why I asked Kelhus if he cares whether this guy has changed his stripes or just learned to change his words. I suspect that his answer is that he doesn't care.

Of course, it is a question of degree. But it will be interesting to see moving forward how the MSM (and to a larger extent the entire establishment) navigates how they are going to deal with similar charges being brought for arguably more serious crimes (unlike with the Proud Boys, with the "Cop City" terrorists there is actually a lot of evidence of conspiracy to commit violence against the govt that was actualized) when the narrative isn't as convenient.

For their part the ACLU has already come out as pro terrorist in this instance, when I dont recall them having any similar principled stance with the Jan 6th rioters.

Do u think there is ANY form of degree in the “right” leaning medias ?

Well, if Richard Hanania was President and he was political friends with influential political figures who actually called for racial pogroms and had a long history of bigotry they never apologized for, I would have suitable moral outrage.

But as it is, I am not going to play the establishment/media's game and be outraged when and only when they tell me to.

So no, I am not going to care when the media/establishment tries to "cancel" some dude on Twitter, given the egregious behavior they are completely agnostic to. If the media/establisment wants to convince me they are good faith actors whose cancel campaigns I should be sympathetic towards, there is an extremely long list of people in line ahead of Richard Hanania they could be asking some hard questions about.

You're racist as hell dude.

dun, do you have any opinions or trails towards the identity of the establishment? Last time i asked you i think you mentioned it was similar to the catholic church. Are we working on pure mystery and spec or do you have some ideas what group may be behind it.

Nobody is asking you to be feel any sort of way about Hanania because the media told you to feel that way. You are capable of independent thought. You know the sorts of things he said in the past because he admitted saying them. You know the sorts of things he says now because you obviously follow him relatively closely.

If you don't find the stuff he said in the past to be an impediment to taking him seriously, and you are comfortable with the sorts of things he says now, I guess that speaks for itself. But don't pretend like you have some principled obligation to zig because the media you detest is zagging.

I take Obama seriously too, despite the character and rhetoric of the people he chooses to associate with.

Morality is very complicated, especially when tribalism and ideology get thrown in the mix. And I fail more than I would like to, but I do try to rise above the fray and objectively observe the world for what it is, without getting sucked into the moral panics of our times.

Never mind, Kelhus. I don't know why I bothered, as I knew you would dissemble. Just keep posting pictures of Obama and citing Hanania as you imagine yourself soaring above the fray.

Why would you entertain the moral panics of the day when you can spend all your time peddling the imaginary cabal of elites controlling everything?

For real, if there's decent money to be made on posting Kelhus' claptrap on some right wing site, I'm all about pulling the one ahead trick and raking in the subs.

Basically, the posters on the site just talk to Kelhus and I'm the conduit by copy-pasting their posts here and copy-pasting Kel's responses there.

Quite a cool little chess scam actually. Run a simul against a bunch of strong players with you playing alternating colours on each successive board. Whatever move your opponent plays, you play the same move on the next board with your own colour, so the players all end up playing each other. You end up winning and losing the same number of games and drawing the rest.

The 3 most destructive world events of our lifetime all have one man in common.

Rupert Murdoch retired from the Fox and News Corp. boards,
leaving his even more right-wing son Lachlan as the sole guy in charge

The Iraq War, the Brexit vote and the rise of Trump and his big lie
— simply could not have happened without Rupert Murdoch

https://www.msnbc.com/the-mehdi-hasa...fox-rcna117049

Fox News recognized there was a void (news entertainment for the more socially conservative, older, less educated, low informed demographic) and they filled it.

You will probably disagree, but IMO the growth of right wing media is a downstream consequence of the left wing capture of academia. All else being equal, I am guessing the actual owners of mainstream outlets (CNN, WaPo, NYT) would have preferred their outlets had remained more ideologically balance. But the truth is they couldn't because after an entire generation of academia successfully indoctrinating the educated class in leftist activism, the workers that make up journalism and a giant chunk of the consumers demanded a sharp turn left. So MSM went left, and the rest is history.

You can argue that left wing ideology is morally correct and academia and media turning left is the morally correct outcome. And you may be right. But for every action there is a reaction. So here we are.

You all flatter me. Truthfully, I am not that good of a writer. I enjoy the pursuit of truth, but writing itself has never been a strong aptitude to the point where I could realistically monetize it.

Fox News recognized there was a void (news entertainment for the more socially conservative, older, less educated, low informed demographic) and they filled it.

You mean to say they played to the low IQ people?
And then brainwashed all of em for 25+ years because they are the most susceptible?


You don't seem dumb at all. How did right wing media manage to brainwash you so thoroughly?

Are you just naturally a miserable hater and thats why you latch on to the right wing propaganda?

Maybe Becauase it fits your narrative?

Is there anything bad that the right wing has done which you haven't found a way to blame on the left? Are they just never responsible for their own choices and actions?