Serious question, did you get your story straight??

I got my story straight, I wanna make you think.

Trump: pro Israel, pro America, anti communism, anti Sauds

You: pro Sauds? (To be fair I got your anology) , pro America, anti communism, anti Trump

Is that all correct?

Liberals: pro/anti communism? Pro tax...??!

Ah, Trump, that notorious Saudi hater.

+1

How are the protests going?

They are still protesting it seems. These videos are from a couple hours ago.

Protests in the US, here one cuban woman in the US says they sent food etc and this is how they survive.


Looking pretty bad for the cubans, worst state now since the crash of the sovjet union. Doctors are making 80-100 dollars a month. The recent sanctions cost them 130B. They are pretty f now.

Real Cubans slam BLM- they say wtf is BLM doing??



over 500 people missing.
Cuban activist "if we had social media 20 years ago, what we see now probably would have happened then"

I've been consistent the whole time and I doubt anybody else is having trouble figuring out what I'm saying.

You've been flailing around wildly not making any sense.

He's that way in every thread.

Get used to it.

No u are! I'm straight up barreling and I'm right. He said he doesn't like trump. He also said he doesn't like communism imo. That's what got me tilted. Yeah was a little intoxicated. Maybe he just wanted to criticize Cuba and it has nothing to do with anything. Idk. Anyways peace!

Peace!

for lagtight and d2.

I think more than any other person ecriture d'adulte needs to watch this as should anyone who takes a more simplistic 'Cuba ...Castro... bad...Don't blame the US or Bautista', type view.

Sure Castro and communism can be bad and end in bad outcomes but in this case the US was never going to give it a chance to be any thing but bad.

I don't think anyone can make an absolute statement absolving either the US or Castro/Communism nor attributing all the blame.

I think what we all should be able to agree on is that the US picked Cuba up and put them on this **** show road of never ending misery and there was no way off, once the US put them there.

Sticking with Bautista and under US colonialism would not have got them off. Taking Castro/Communism road would not get them off.

Once the US condemned the Cuban's to that road it was always ending at a terminal **** point.

I get your point and agree in a lot of ways but ultimately not Castro and the Commies made things a ton better there.

As opposed to the cases where the US takes a tenderhearted approach to communist regimes?

I mean it's not like the USSR's economy imploded in a geopolitical vacuum. One could say it was there fault for taking the bait over and over and over again. But one way or another (war) we would have reduced the regime's ability to feed their people.

its important to note that Cuba did not start out Communist. the USA hard line approach drove Castro into the arms of the Soviet Union. dont believe me? take it from Allen Dulles and the CIA.

Victor, this is a great video! Probably the best video I've seen in a long time.

Lagtight, you must watch it. Why does he say in the video all freedom movements in rhe world carry the flags of Che or the commies? Why does he say never a US flag? Why does the US not care about lifes? Only about money and capitalism= exploitation. Why does Florida have more people incarcerated than any other country?

Sure and that is a fair point.

When you are faced with an Imperial Power, the USA, who was set too and in the midst of raping your country and setting it up to be a vassal state run by a dictator of their choice who would allow US corporate interests to bleed the country dry, it should be no surprise that some in the country see the only escape from that power to be embrace the only other competing power structure.

And no one should deny that the US was being an oppressor and in the midst of setting Cuba up for generational rape and hardship on behalf of US corporate interests.

Like I said, you completely flip flopped on the main point of contention; whether Cuba is the best place to live in Latin America. Now we both agree it isn't. This thread is about protests in Cuba. Just saying that many Cubans are mad at the performance and lack of free expression and press under the un-elected government that's been in power for 50+ years is of course relevant and undeniable.

Before you dont know the information of victor's video it is meaningless talking to you about cuba. If you really want to learn something about cuba and cuba-us relations, you should defintely see it. Take the blue pill, and see whats really happening. Or live in your matrix of fantasies about everything. They show you a an offical document that states, the US main goal is to crash cuba's economy. That thing is in place for decades.


Im not flip flopping. If I had to pick any country in Latin America Id probably pick cuba right now. It depends what you call best place to live in. It is the safest imo. I dont know how safe the virging islands are or Curaçao are, but I would guess they are more dangerous, definetlely more expensive than cuba.
Jamaica? Nah, costa rica? Too dangerous. Mexico? Been there done that. Everything is too dangerous right now. When you are in costa rica in your gated community at nights, becuase you are scared to go out, I can party at the beach in cuba with a bottle of rum.

This is a testimony from an an american expat in costa rica and why americans leave it. At min 8.27 she tells you about the crimes every expat has witnessed. Do you know this guy at min 14:22??! Im pretty sure a lot of guys know who it is.

I understand you've been drinking etc but it's not worth having a conversation when you don't even agree with yourself.

You are implying something that is not completely true.
I'm pretty much sticking to my words. Cuba is awesome, go back and read what's cuepee had to say about Cuba.

Did you know the facts about the history of Cuba as mentioned in victors video?

Do you know this guy or not? I actually found this thanks to you mentioning Costa Rica.

Lol u should move there

Do you have anything to add to a debate you started

im confused, too....seems like paradise to me

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...eat/ar-AASDUsE