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02-16-2020 , 08:05 PM
There is some crazy stuff in that robot article.

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Some robots are programmed to protest, to create a rape scenario
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Some are designed to look like children. One developer of these in Japan is a self-confessed paedophile, who says that this device is a prophylactic against him ever hurting a real child.
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02-16-2020 , 08:13 PM
I'm of two minds on that.

Regardless, these aren't the guys that our overlords are worried about checking out. There's actually very few functional people interested in ****ing robots. (Shocking as that may be to this crowd.)
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02-16-2020 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
It always has been.

Especially in the South.
ICWUDT... I think
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02-17-2020 , 09:06 AM
when this forum was created there was a break off forum set up somewhere else. can someone post/pm the link?
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02-17-2020 , 09:23 PM
Defenceless under the night
Our world in stupor lies;
Yet, dotted everywhere,
Ironic points of light
Flash out wherever the Just
Exchange their messages:
May I, composed like them
Of Eros and of dust,
Beleaguered by the same
Negation and despair,
Show an affirming flame.
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02-18-2020 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus999
Destroying family life, by emphasizing the nuclear family over the extended family, is an essential part of US neoliberalism/capitalism. Broken/dysfunctional nuclear families are even better. The neoliberal capitalist machine wants you completely dependent on it, so that you do its bidding.
families is socialism. and the bigger the family the more socialism it is. welcome comrade.
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02-18-2020 , 01:46 PM
white dudes talkin eugenics itt

cool cool

whats next: abortion?
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02-18-2020 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
families is socialism. and the bigger the family the more socialism it is. welcome comrade.
You are right about families but its the other way around

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I am, at the Fed level, libertarian;

at the state level, Republican;

at the local level, Democrat;

and at the family and friends level, a socialist.
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02-19-2020 , 01:00 AM
that's an interesting quote/ stanza

would need to see it amplified.
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02-19-2020 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
You are right about families but its the other way around
The concept is called "subsiderization."

The people closest to the persons in need should be the ones responsible for those needs being met, whenever feasible.

Family --> Neighbors --> Local charities -->City government --> County Government --> State Government --> Federal Government.

Federal government involvement would be the "last resort", so to speak.

Last edited by lagtight; 02-19-2020 at 06:26 AM.
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02-19-2020 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
lol at all the incels "choosing" to opt out of the system by getting robot pussy
It's probably better than banging a watermelon
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02-19-2020 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
families is socialism. and the bigger the family the more socialism it is. welcome comrade.
Well, the problem has always been getting people to buy into the idea that people that aren't related to them are "family," and they should sacrifice their own well being for non related people. Ironically, it seems this is something that military indoctrination is fairly good at, for reasons I admit I don't entirely understand, although it seems to involve shared trauma bringing people closer together.

It's real easy to get people to buy into the idea they should act for the benefit of their own genes. 4 billion years of evolution has seen to that. Which, of course, is why capitalism has always been an easy sell and worked reasonably well.
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02-19-2020 , 02:44 PM
Might be interesting to see what would happen to the European Socialist Utopias if they had to pay 100% of their own defense budgets.

Maybe someday the U.S. will figure out that the only country they're obligated to defend is their own.
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02-19-2020 , 03:46 PM
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Sean Illing

At one point, you write that white Americans “fell asleep thinking of themselves as the people who had built this country and woke up to find themselves occupying the bottom rung of an official hierarchy of races.” People will read that, fairly or not, as the cry of a reactionary, someone who doesn’t recognize the country anymore and hates what it’s become.

Christopher Caldwell

I don’t think of myself as a reactionary, but one of the unintended consequences of civil rights was to create a white consciousness. And I think that it’s the photographic negative of what we can call intersectionality. But, as I said earlier, as long as civil rights law was focused on segregation, it was both comprehensible and it had some boundaries which I think kept the country calm.
I really don't get how you could say with a straight face that the Civil Rights Movement created a white consciousness. I think you'd have to say that the Civil Rights Movement reactivated white consciousness as a salient issue.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...of-entitlement
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02-19-2020 , 04:09 PM
I can’t believe you guys passed over this incredible Tweet. I might have to follow Dawkins, his feed must be a gold mine.

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02-19-2020 , 04:31 PM
#showerthoughts
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02-19-2020 , 04:36 PM
Give it time.

After 10 years or so, some even realised that DS has a sense of humour.
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02-19-2020 , 04:42 PM
I think Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson is definitely the guy we should be cloning humans steaks from, no question.
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02-19-2020 , 04:44 PM
Like I said in the other thread, in a few generations technological innovation will make "humane" domestic meat production economically viable, and everyone will look back and be outraged at our immorality.
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02-19-2020 , 04:47 PM
Even putting aside moral concerns, human tissues would have the extra concern of pathogens (which is always a bigger concern intra-species, as many pathogens are species specific), so the cost/benefit along those lines wouldn't really justify it.
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02-19-2020 , 04:51 PM
So last night the wife and I were talking about conferences, because there might be a travel budget increase for her department. Don't be alarmed, I pay for my own airfare. And so we were also perusing some conference programs to see what looked interesting.

My favorites included this tantalizing research in progress session:

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Imagining Multispecies Democracy: Crossing the Human-Animal 'Divide'
and a salon to discuss the book Necroculture:

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In this book, the author draws on Karl Marx’s writings on alienation and Erich Fromm’s conception of necrophilia in order to understand these aspects of contemporary culture as expressions of the domination of the living by the dead under capitalism. Necroculture is the ideological reflection and material manifestation of this basic feature of capitalism: the rule of dead capital over living labor. The author argues that necroculture represents the subsumption of the world by vampire capital.
Note: not representative of the entirety of the conference! But I wanted to reassure everyone that we're producing more fodder for future JV posts.
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02-19-2020 , 04:54 PM
Personally I'm waiting for the day when they can produce the meat of the surprisingly large number of animals that were driven to extinction because they were so tasty.
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02-19-2020 , 04:56 PM
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Personally I'm waiting for the day when they can produce the meat of the surprisingly large number of animals that were driven to extinction because they were so tasty.
But which celebrities would you most want to eat?
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02-19-2020 , 04:58 PM
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Like I said in the other thread, in a few generations technological innovation will make "humane" domestic meat production economically viable, and everyone will look back and be outraged at our immorality.
Indeed. And vast numbers will insist they would have been vegetarians back in the day. Oddly that will be a far far bigger group than the actual group of vegetarians back in the day.

I will gladly eat lab grown beef but I'm only eating celebrity human meat if I know a real celebrity suffered.
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