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A long derail about definitions, racism, intersectionality, and gibberish A long derail about definitions, racism, intersectionality, and gibberish

08-10-2019 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
And everyone understood exactly what I was talking about, except you. You are still the only person to call it gibberish, illogical, etc. How you like them apples? You were wrong MrWookie, admit it. What you wrote, and what you meant were both incorrect conclusions.
Who understood you? I've got examples of actual people understanding me. Where are yours? It sure isn't me.
08-10-2019 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
And everyone understood exactly what I was talking about, except you. You are still the only person to call it gibberish, illogical, etc. How you like them apples? You were wrong MrWookie, admit it. What you wrote, and what you meant were both incorrect conclusions.

Here is my response to that post:

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Originally Posted by MrWookie
No, I honestly think you're talking in gibberish.
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas View Post
You know, my mother was like you, and used to say stuff like this, among other things. I believed her for a little more than three decades. I encountered some hard times, and ended up getting some test done. This battery of test included cognitive and neurological functioning due to the belief that some things in my history may have caused some issues. The results of those test were interesting. I struggled on stuff like short-term memory (think like can't remember where the car keys are), but was I was exceptional at stuff like retracing my steps, which was is tied to something called contextual memory. Like, I'm really, really good at that, like with in the 5% highest of the people who took the test, which reached into hundreds of thousands of people.

The other thing I was even more exceptional at was, my comprehension, vocabulary and and the ability to correlate and associate ideas with precision. I was within the top 1% of the folks who took this test.

Basically, when it comes to understanding and interpreting complexities, nuances, and context, I am without a doubt, very good at it. With that said, not as good as articulating these things, but I'm not terrible either.

The moral of the story is, I stopped trusting my narcissistic mother when she said stuff like this, and I'm damn well not going to trust your interpretation. My conclusions may not always be right, but my interpretation of the information is almost always precise.

If you honestly think I'm talking in gibberish, you are either incompetent to be discussing things, or you are dishonest, or you have some serious cognitive, or behavior issues yourself. Personally, I think it's you gaslighting when confronted with the fact you were caught manipulating what I wrote.
I understood you from the beginning. Everything else is you denying, deflecting, ignoring, and/or justifying (i.e. gaslighting), so you do not have to address this. You still have not responded to this post adequately. Not one person agreed with your conclusion, up to this point. They were all trying to explain your conclusion, and what you meant, but they did not agree with it.

Last edited by itshotinvegas; 08-10-2019 at 06:30 PM. Reason: this post proves I understood you from the beginning
08-10-2019 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Here is my response to that post:



I understood you from the beginning. Everything else is you denying, deflecting, ignoring, and/or justifying (i.e. gaslighting), so you do not have to address this. You still have not responded to this post adequately. Not one person agreed with your conclusion, up to this point. They were all trying to explain your conclusion, and what you meant, but they did not agree with it.
I am pretty sure no one knows what you are talking about, they just dont want to be a part of this weird thread.

Can you just say what your original point was? I have no idea.
08-10-2019 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cplo42
I am pretty sure no one knows what you are talking about, they just dont want to be a part of this weird thread.

Can you just say what your original point was? I have no idea.
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Don't talk to me about definitions dude. It's not my fault you see intersectionality as a pejorative. Those people were being silly in the video, I made a silly joke. Maybe not a good joke, but I do not care if you are offended that I joked about intersectionality due to not using the term as correctly as you demand. You do not use racist, white supremacy, or racism correctly....and everyone has to deal with it.
That's gibberish/incoherent to MrWookie. He wanted me to define racism, becasue he did not understand the point I was making about usage of terms. In essence, after this post, he conflated definition and usage, in an attempt to create a red herring. I called him on it. He pretended he did not understand me, and posted the gibberish post. He still does not understand incorrect usage does not necessarily require a definition to be incorrect usage. That last point is incoherent to MrWookie, apparently.

The other problem is, no one else had an issue understanding what I was talking about, except MrWookie. Can't come in, after the fact, and pretend to say you do not know what I was talking about, when three other people explicitly contended with my position.

Last edited by itshotinvegas; 08-10-2019 at 06:54 PM. Reason: His conclusion about my post(s) were objectively incorrect.
08-11-2019 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Same pattern here:





I can post endless examples of MrWookie doing this stuff. He got his answer, then he wants to move the goal post. Always asking questions based on his false premises, or his absurd/disjointed/manipulated interpretations, then gas lights the person as if they are the ones doing that, while demanding further clarifications. Rinse and repeat. Then folks come along and want you to placate him, and make an more an effort to be compliant with his request for clarifications.

I do not have a problem with almost any one else asking me to elaborate on stuff.
MrW wasn’t manipulating your words or shifting goal posts in that exchange you quoted, you realize that don’t you? I think you were the person who was earlier touting your reading comprehension, so MrW was twisting the knife a bit as he was illustrating how unreasonable your interpretation of Warren’s tweet was.
08-11-2019 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
MrW wasn’t manipulating your words or shifting goal posts in that exchange you quoted, you realize that don’t you?
My problem with that exchange is, he asked me a question, I answered. Then he mocks my answer, and asks a different question, questioning the the logical coherency of my interpretation, when he figured out his first question was not the brightest. He wants to discuss the logical coherency of peoples views, always. If I continued in that thread, I could have pointed to how logically coherent my view was (which is what he was attacking, again), and I'd be spinning my wheels, while he did his deny, deflect, justify, ignore routine. That does not mean my view is right, or wrong, it's just logical, which is what he is disputing. He does not really contend with my position, he only contends with the coherency of it, and will never agree that it's coherent. So, we never get anywhere.


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I think you were the person who was earlier touting your reading comprehension, so MrW was twisting the knife a bit as he was illustrating how unreasonable your interpretation of Warren’s tweet was.
I do not think my interpretation was unreasonable, I do believe it was disagreeable, and there is valid points on that front. I'm not getting in any more interpretation battles with MrWookie, and that's what he almost exclusively focuses on. He believes my post are gibberish. He has some sort of comprehension problem when it comes to my post. (In reality, he disagrees, but he only only knows to attack the logical coherency)

You'd find if MrWookie just stated his position, instead of asking a series of questions aimed at ridiculing, or trying to get gotcha's, or questions the logic in the perfectly acceptable logical conclusions people make (despite those conclusions being disagreeable), the toxicity he specifically encounters would dissipate. He will not do that though. Let's not pretend I'm the only one he has this issue with.

Everyone has to be mallable to MrWookie on what he means, but it seems too big of a chore for him towards others.

The gibberish post he made is a perfect example of this. Because he can't explain why he does not understand what I'm saying, in his mind, it's my fault. You were able to understand my point, and object to it, as were two other people. My post are objectively intelligible, and coherent, although not as precise, and not as agreeable as some would like. He can't seem to comprehend the logic in order to contend with the position, or so he says.

Last edited by itshotinvegas; 08-11-2019 at 01:39 PM.
08-11-2019 , 03:26 PM
Yeah man, I was mocking your answer because it was obviously and objectively wrong.
08-11-2019 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Yeah man, I was mocking your answer because it was obviously and objectively wrong.
I do not take issue with you mocking me, or having that conclusion MrWookie, it's when you gaslight. Which is what you are doing here. The correct answer to the first question you asked was, "head on".

Last edited by itshotinvegas; 08-11-2019 at 03:45 PM.
08-11-2019 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I do not take issue with you mocking me, or having that conclusion MrWookie, it's when you gaslight. Which is what you are doing here. The correct answer to the first question you asked was, "head on".
Warren stated in clear and unambiguous terms what was to be taken "head on," and it wasn't the police. She also very clearly only called one cop a murderer. You were lying about both of those things.
08-11-2019 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Warren stated in clear and unambiguous terms what was to be taken "head on," and it wasn't the police. She also very clearly only called one cop a murderer. You were lying about both of those things.
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How is Warren proposing that these cops be stopped?

You are gaslighting.
08-11-2019 , 03:56 PM
Supplying Warren's answer for how something else should be confronted is not a correct answer to how the police should be stopped.

I asked you that first question because I didn't think you were either dumb or craven enough to deliberately misread Warren's direct quote. That was a mistake by me. I should have taken a hint from how you deliberately lied about her calling white cops in general murderers instead of one particular cop that you were indeed dumb and or craven enough to lie about the contents of a direct quotation that we have in front of us in writing.
08-11-2019 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Supplying Warren's answer for how something else should be confronted is not a correct answer to how the police should be stopped.
Gaslighting again

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How is Warren proposing that these cops be stopped?
08-11-2019 , 04:01 PM
Supplying Warren's answer for how something else should be confronted is not a correct answer to how theses cops should be stopped.

My sentence has the same meaning even now.
08-11-2019 , 04:05 PM
Your edit:

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I asked you that first question because I didn't think you were either dumb or craven enough to deliberately misread Warren's direct quote. That was a mistake by me. I should have taken a hint from how you deliberately lied about her calling white cops in general murderers instead of one particular cop that you were indeed dumb and or craven enough to lie about the contents of a direct quotation that we have in front of us in writing.
This is also gaslighting.

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How is Warren proposing that these cops be stopped?
That is talking about a specific kind of cop.
08-11-2019 , 04:05 PM
It's obvious to anyone why you didn't answer my follow up question. It's because to answer it would be to admit to being the lying troll you are.
08-11-2019 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Supplying Warren's answer for how something else should be confronted is not a correct answer to how theses cops should be stopped.

My sentence has the same meaning even now.
This is gaslighting as well.


Warren provided an example of the problem, which she then characterized the problem, then addressed the solution, to which said it needed to be confronted head on.
08-11-2019 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
This is gaslighting as well.


Warren provided an example of the problem, which she characterized the problem, then addressed the solution, to which said it needed to be confronted head on.
Accusing me of gaslighting without quoting Warren to prove it is empty trolling.
08-11-2019 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
It's obvious to anyone why you didn't answer my follow up question. It's because to answer it would be to admit to being the lying troll you are.
I did not answer becasue you were gaslighting me, like you are now. This is a deflection, as well.
08-11-2019 , 04:14 PM
Tralalalalallalalala
08-11-2019 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
I did not answer becasue you were gaslighting me, like you are now. This is a deflection, as well.
I already supplied the answer to my own question. Is my answer to my question a lie?
08-11-2019 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Accusing me of gaslighting without quoting Warren to prove it is empty trolling.
You are engaging the exact behavior I described to M2B.
08-11-2019 , 04:18 PM
Alright, we're done here.

      
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