Famine exists and it’s terrible. Leaders use food as a weapon. Starvation exists.

It does not exists in America a top 10 food secure country. If you say ‘R governors are using the threat of starvation to force people back to low paying jobs’ you have said a very dumb thing. And ^ that guy said it over and over again like he was teaching second graders.

No bro no one is starving in America.

its a mixed of multiple factors .

https://www.thehenryford.org/explore...ve-dollar-day/

"It’s no small detail that, as Henry Ford slyly observed, in the course of improving his employees’ standard of living, Ford also created a new pool of customers for his Model T. The Five-Dollar Day helped to bring members of America’s working class into its middle class. Better wages, combined with the affordable goods produced by the assembly line, are cornerstones of the prosperity that has characterized American life for so many of the past 100 years."

Please confirm you’re not British or some **** because that’s one of the most unamerican ideas I’ve ever read.

Why arent they ?
Because of government, not because of wages being high enough.
That is the whole point of the discussion....

Food stamp could be seen as a subsidies for companies since it permits them to give lower wages, keeping unprofitable companies artificially viable.

Yea the idea that one of the main reasons people work is to not starve to death is some 1450s British peasant ****. Americans don’t believe that bro.

Over here we don’t organized our society on a ‘don’t starve to death’ principle we shoot a bit higher. Everyone has food.

So are your American or have lived in America? Because no you’re wrong. If you’re hungry tonight there is no government food right now hotline. You call a church. Any church. And you eat that night.

‘Unemployed Americans will actually starve if they get kicked off unemployment and don’t take a job’ is a very very dumb statement and has no basis in reality.

its now church job to provide foods to US workers ?

Addressing your point of STARVING TO DEATH yes the first place you’d want to go for that is the nearest phone to call the nearest church.

did not see anyone claim people would die....

If you were making $80,000 a year and your company fired you, guess what. There’s no law that says you go back to work at $80,000. That is not (officially) how we have decided to organize ourselves the last 200 years.

Dude you were the one pounding the guy in the head with the word starvation. Can you safely starve?

agree but were talking about people working at 7.25$ an hour or close to that.
Not upper middle class.

Why dont you stick to the core of the discussion ?

yes, not eating enough but survive is possible.

Yea man and what I’m doing is telling you is here in America, no matter the status of your unemployment benes, we do not starve. You think we do because you read yourself write it on the internet. You’re wrong to think that that’s the discussion.

Between food stamps, charity and the new children checks America has food security well covered. I’m not saying there’s no food insecure due to disability or rural but we do not deal with starvation in America.

At the end of the day what does it change between starvation or food insecurity?
People at minimum wages don’t make it without help from government, church and w.e else …..

Wages are too low ,shrug .

Why are you shrugging. It's not like an accident and "why can't they find a better way". It is deliberate and the goal is simply rich and poor. Op is wondering as if confused as to why they are putting the squeeze on small business as if they're stupid. It's on purpose bc small business is a bastion of middle class

Give the poors more money than a small business can pay and make way for more big business. It isn't rocket science. Op comes across as dumbfounded

In my opinion, we will see massive starvation if the Satan-inspired Leftists continue to take over our institutions.

+1

nutella virus = mike tyson

One of the jobs of the church is charity.

And, workers don't typically require free food.

It’s no small detail that, as Henry Ford slyly observed, in the course of improving his employees’ standard of living, Ford also created a new pool of customers for his Model T. The Five-Dollar Day helped to bring members of America’s working class into its middle class. Better wages, combined with the affordable goods produced by the assembly line, are cornerstones of the prosperity that has characterized American life for so many of the past 100 years.

Matt Anderson is Curator of Transportation of The Henry Ford.

There is absolutely some correlation between wages and real economic growth. I mean....come on. Capital is only worth something because it can be used to produce something else. That something else (widget) is traded via fiat currency. That currency goes back into the system.

There's some inefficiency but it's not like capital is better than consumption. The actual driver of the economy is consumption when you think about it. If no one wanted/needed anything there would be no need to trade in the first place.

Well, we pretend pumping 3 trillion into the stock market to keep the share prices up is a boom.

In my opinion you can't run a massive trade deficit and not benefit from the supply chains and have an actual 'good' economy. But we've been doing that for decades under the guise of globalism. So it's all pretty smoke and mirrors and fragile. Best not to watch the sausage being made.

Don't encourage him LT.

My MIL is living off of social security and would literally stave if she didn't have access to other income. She qualifies for some help but they set the limits around SS I think.

She has my wife to look after her but imagine all those who are on their own....we really don't provide for the elderly as we should. I don't think we ever have in my lifetime.

LOL at expecting churches to pick up the slack.

The small churches can't and the big ones are just as corrupt and money hungry as any other big corporation.

If your mother in law would starve it would not be for lack of programs or food, it would be for lack of help. She wouldn’t starve because that’s what happens in America when you don’t have enough money, she would starve from disability imo.

I remember long food lines at the start of the pandemic. I don’t remember anyone starving. If that Dutch dude wants to link to people staving in America go ahead. Because if people were starving in my country I would walk into my bosses office and ask what were going to do about this. We don’t starve here from lack of food or programs.

https://www.mealsonwheelsamerica.org/find-meals

Find a zip code that it tells you sorry no food.