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View Poll Results: Is this twitter post by Trudeau identity politics

Nope thats a bizarre contortion

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Not really

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It could be seen as both yes and no

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Yes basically

1 6.25%

Absolutely its rediculous to need a poll for this

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09-29-2023 , 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor

right bc I am able to understand that wearing a shirt is different than posting on twitter. seems to be a difficult concept for the libs.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Try and use your words, limited as they are.

Can you start by explaining what exactly it is the libs have done to upset you ITT? What is the concept they (we?) don't get?

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09-29-2023 , 06:51 AM

#202

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Originally Posted by jbouton

Part of my works involves extending our syntax to include provisions for denoting 'frameworks'. The idea that we much of our dualistic nature can be transcended by this (by illuminating the framework with syntax).

In this thread a lot of the context/implications change once its obvious that its, for example, simply a leftist belief thats its bizarre to call a certain action/picture identity politics.

So the poll would be missing something denoting that the group here has that implied framework.

I guess it is my turn to be confused. I don't understand much of this post.

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09-29-2023 , 06:53 AM

#203

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Originally Posted by Victor

I tend to believe people. its a fault of mine. I totally believe that d2 is indeed that redacted.

d2 is redacted? Like a government record produced in response to a FOIA request?

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09-29-2023 , 07:47 AM

#204

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d2 is redacted? Like a government record produced in response to a FOIA request?

I gave Victor the benefit of the doubt that it was his little joke, as the natural "re-xxxx-ed" word that would go there is in fact censored on this forum.

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09-29-2023 , 07:48 AM

#205

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I still don't know what we are doing in this thread. No one seems willing to say that it was objectionable for Trudeau to go to this movie wearing a pink shirt or post this picture.

So we are left to debate whether behavior that no one thinks is objectionable can be defined using words that almost always are used as a pejorative by modern conservatives. Who cares? We might as well be debating whether reheating food in a microwave can be defined as cooking.

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09-29-2023 , 07:50 AM

#206

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I gave Victor the benefit of the doubt that it was his little joke, as the natural "re-xxxx-ed" word that would go there is in fact censored on this forum.

I prefer to think of you as having black rectangles over any distinguishing features.

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09-29-2023 , 08:01 AM

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What's with your hang up on people needing to find it objectionable? Who cares how "modern conservative" have used the term.

I think this thread has been interesting because it shows just how ridiculous some people here are. You guys have basically twisted yourself into pretzels pretending that there is no such thing as identity politics. It's sort of embarrassing really given that this is a politics forum. But it's also funny.

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09-29-2023 , 08:02 AM

#208

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You guys have basically twisted yourself into pretzels pretending that there is no such thing as identity politics.

Wat

Who did this?

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09-29-2023 , 08:06 AM

#209

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

I gave Victor the benefit of the doubt that it was his little joke, as the natural "re-xxxx-ed" word that would go there is in fact censored on this forum.

I don't use that word.

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09-29-2023 , 08:10 AM

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I don't use that word.

So you just use random similar-sounding words that evoke it in its stead. Gotcha.

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09-29-2023 , 08:14 AM

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Wat

Who did this?

Trolly, Rococo, Bobo .. Maybe some others.

These people belong in the engineering forum where everything is black and white and no amount of critical thought or nuance is required because this sort of stuff is too difficult for them

But if you're not willing to accept that someone (it could be anyone it doesn't have to be to be a prime minister) is making a political statement when they post a picture of them and their son wearing pink shirts to a Barbie movie that was drenched in political themes, then you really shouldn't be posting here.

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09-29-2023 , 08:17 AM

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I prefer to think of you as having black rectangles over any distinguishing features.

Is this the cue for Trolly to enter stage left with a comment about my weirdly shaped head?

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09-29-2023 , 08:17 AM

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I did not see any of these posters denying the existence of identity politics. Can you quote any posts to this effect?

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09-29-2023 , 08:19 AM

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So you just use random similar-sounding words that evoke it in its stead. Gotcha.

You are the one doing the evoking.

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09-29-2023 , 08:21 AM

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You are the one doing the evoking.

Dude. You literally called another human "redacted", responding to a post about that person being stupid. How should that be interpreted?

You might want to rethink your "I can be as illiterate as I want and everyone will still always get what I mean" philosophy.

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09-29-2023 , 08:21 AM

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I did not see any of these posters denying the existence of identity politics. Can you quote any posts to this effect?

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There is no actual "Identity politics" it's a political term used to try and minimize efforts to obtain civil rights. It's nonsense. It's a distraction.

Not one of the posters I named but here is the most blatant example

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09-29-2023 , 08:24 AM

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Right. Either identity politics includes things as banal as a politician's "look at me" Intsagram post, or it's a political strategy used to divide people. If it's the latter, well, that picture isn't even close. If it's the former...who ****ing cares?

An excellent point that is easily lost in all of this. It's a term that's thrown around so casually now, I've gotten sucked into thinking it matters.

Here is Bobo agreeing with that post and dismissing the entire concept because it's too fuzzy for him.

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09-29-2023 , 08:25 AM

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No one is refusing to acknowledge a concept. We all know that politicians of all stripes make efforts to appeal to different groups at different times. You can call that behavior whatever you want, I suppose. Identity politics, pandering, regular ole politics. Who cares. We all agree the behavior occurs. This photo arguably falls into that category of behavior to the very limited and innocuous extent that uke explained in post 45. Is that the "who cares" acknowledgment you are looking for? Because I said the same thing yesterday.

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09-29-2023 , 08:26 AM

#219

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Not one of the posters I named but here is the most blatant example

Meh, I guess so. I don't think he is denying the existence of this concept (obviously it exists - as you pointed out, it's been used in an academic context for decades), more its use/application. But I agree that the phrasing could use work.

ETA: also, what Rococo said above. I'm still struggling to see how identity politics is different from politics.

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09-29-2023 , 08:26 AM

#220

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I woulda went with stupid but if your mind immediately goes to ******ed when referring to yourself then I will just take your word for it.

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09-29-2023 , 08:28 AM

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I woulda went with stupid but if your mind immediately goes to ******ed when referring to yourself then I will just take your word for it.

So you meant to call me "stupid" but typed "redacted" instead? Not exactly a stellar showing of your own abilities there, champ.

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09-29-2023 , 08:36 AM

#222

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I don't use that word.

Victor,

I'm sure you can appreciate how ridiculous this is. You might as well be arguing that you never use a particular gay slur because you dutifully replace the "a" with "@".

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09-29-2023 , 08:41 AM

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Guys, is it identity politics to wear flip flops indoors?

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09-29-2023 , 09:04 AM

#224

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Guys, is it identity politics to wear flip flops indoors?

Crocs would be, for sure.

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09-29-2023 , 09:13 AM

#225

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Originally Posted by Rococo

Victor,

I'm sure you can appreciate how ridiculous this is. You might as well be arguing that you never use a particular gay slur because you dutifully replace the "a" with "@".

It is pretty rediculous. Redacted does not mean ******ed. Hope that helps.

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