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Is Justin Trudeau posing in pink with with son at the Barbie Movie identify politics? Is Justin Trudeau posing in pink with with son at the Barbie Movie identify politics?
View Poll Results: Is this twitter post by Trudeau identity politics
Nope thats a bizarre contortion
10 62.50%
Not really
1 6.25%
It could be seen as both yes and no
1 6.25%
Yes basically
1 6.25%
Absolutely its rediculous to need a poll for this
3 18.75%

09-28-2023 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
We all decide this, collectively. This is politics not chemistry. There isn't some hard and fast rule here.

Why do we say "the shiny big red spiky ball" as opposed to "the spiky red big shiny ball?"?
I would say "big red shiny spiky". So yeah, no hard and fast rule.
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09-28-2023 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I would say "big red shiny spiky". So yeah, no hard and fast rule.
Interesting. That definitely seems off to me... 'shiny' first for sure... English is your second language right? How would it be in Russian?
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09-28-2023 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Interesting. That definitely seems off to me... 'shiny' first for sure... English is your second language right? How would it be in Russian?
English is basically my first language - I think in English. In Russian it would be to taste also I guess.

I guess in context you would usually put modifiers in order of relevance. In a vacuum, my ordering sounds the most natural to me.
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09-28-2023 , 06:57 PM
It's a big red shiny spiky day in this neighborhood.

Works for me.
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09-28-2023 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Identity groups tend to be categories that are seen as immutable and fundamental to the core essence of an individuals.
That can't be correct: people change their religious affiliation all the time. And being a veteran is immutable as far as I can tell. You're just making things up here.
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09-28-2023 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
That can't be correct: people change their religious affiliation all the time. And being a veteran is immutable as far as I can tell. You're just making things up here.

What does "tend to be" mean to you exactly?
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09-28-2023 , 08:03 PM
"Identity Politics" is, as e_d alluded to, much like "woke" and "cancel culture" - very vague terms that people use rather loosely to describe things they don't like. But the use of it for the pic in the OP seems pretty bizarre. People were wearing pink to Barbie because they're Barbie fans, and Barbie is all about fashion, pink being a big part of that, and people think it's fun to wear pink, etc., etc. One of those shared pop culture moments we get every year or two. So the "identity politics" here would be JT supporting Barbie/Barbie fans for...I'm not really sure what political reason. To divide Barbie fans and non-Barbie fans?

As I said to the OP back when he posted this the first time - "If you want to argue that it's some kind of virtue signaling, or a political stunt, then I can at least see the argument."

And even that's stretching things IMO. It appears to me to be nothing more than simply sharing a picture of him out with his kid, or at worst JT being JT - "look at me, I'm doing the same cool things the rest of you regular people do".
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09-28-2023 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Catholics are an identity group, nuns are an interest group.
Why is Catholic an identity group, but army veteran, convicted felon, victim of sexual assault, etc., not an identity group?
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09-28-2023 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Why is Catholic an identity group, but army veteran, convicted felon, victim of sexual assault, etc., not an identity group?
Because Catholicism is a religion. I already addressed this.
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09-28-2023 , 08:23 PM
luckbox have you considered that maybe this isn't the thread for you and you should try again in the next one?
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09-28-2023 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Because Catholicism is a religion. I already addressed this.
But I thought religion is an exception to the rule that you made up on the spot?
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09-28-2023 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
And even that's stretching things IMO. It appears to me to be nothing more than simply sharing a picture of him out with his kid, or at worst JT being JT - "look at me, I'm doing the same cool things the rest of you regular people do".
The actual political statement, coming right after the separation, was probably more like "look at me, I'm still a great dad even though I'm separating".
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09-28-2023 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
luckbox have you considered that maybe this isn't the thread for you and you should try again in the next one?
What part do you think I've gotten wrong?
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09-28-2023 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
But I thought religion is an exception to the rule that you made up on the spot?
What do you think the academics say identity politics is about?
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09-28-2023 , 08:33 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
Identity politics is politics based on a particular identity, such as race, nationality, religion, gender, sexual orientation, social background, social class.[1]
Sorry guys...nothing about occupation or veteran status but there is religion right there.
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09-28-2023 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
The actual political statement, coming right after the separation, was probably more like "look at me, I'm still a great dad even though I'm separating".
Yeah, meant to mention that and completely forgot. Probably the top reason right there.

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
Identity politics is politics based on a particular identity, such as race, nationality, religion, gender, sexual orientation, social background, social class.[1]
Sorry guys...nothing about occupation or veteran status but there is religion right there.
How about movie fandom, did that make the list?

I haven't seen the Barbie movie yet, and feel quite alienated and minimized by the picture. I was actually going to hang out with one of my friends tonight, but then it came up that I hadn't seen the movie, and the evening was cancelled. ****ing Trudeau and his identity politics!
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09-28-2023 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Jbouton’s mind is going to be blown when he realizes Trudeau also posted a picture of him and his daughter going to Oppenheimer and they didn’t wear pink to that one!
ur a math teacher, this is invalid logic.
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09-28-2023 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
What is a women ?
...no....

how do words work?

words don't have definitions....only what we ascribe them, else who/what is the authority?
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09-28-2023 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
ur a math teacher, this is invalid logic.
And it's from the person telling me I should sit it out...pink specifically to Barbie is the whole point. Wtf are people supposed to wear to Oppenheimer? Mushroom clouds?
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09-28-2023 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Because Catholicism is a religion. I already addressed this.
I guess that I was looking for something better than an ipse dixit response.
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09-28-2023 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
I'd love for one of the people concerned about this photo to post an hour-by-hour breakdown of a typical day in their life. I'm genuinely curious. But if I see going back and forth to work in the timeline I'll know they're just making everything up.
No one's concerned now that its not identity politics. I was at least mistaken thinking that people here on the right would call it such, so was expecting...a few?
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09-28-2023 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
Well, to begin with, it involves politics. Posting pictures with your family isn't generally making a political statement.
Ok thats invalid logic. That doesn't parse.

Lemme respond by this....that its a picture with his son doesn't support your point whatsoever.
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09-28-2023 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
Identity politics is politics based on a particular identity, such as race, nationality, religion, gender, sexual orientation, social background, social class.[1]
Sorry guys...nothing about occupation or veteran status but there is religion right there.
Why do we care about wikipedia definitions? We are asking about your idiosyncratic definition that doesn't even have negative connotations. But if you want to rely on your wikipedia article, then I guess we have to deal with this:

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Such contemporary applications of identity politics describe people of specific race, ethnicity, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, age, economic class, disability status, education, religion, language, profession, political party, veteran status, recovery status, and geographic location.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics
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09-28-2023 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Wearing a pink shirt is identity politics, it seems.
thats a literal strawman.
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09-28-2023 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
So? Are you claiming that it's not possible to separate out a leader's personal life from their political life?
You want to claim this was a personal life picture? I'll grant you it as a perspective, but its helping me understand how ya'll frame this.
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