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View Poll Results: Is this twitter post by Trudeau identity politics

Nope thats a bizarre contortion

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Not really

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It could be seen as both yes and no

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Yes basically

1 6.25%

Absolutely its rediculous to need a poll for this

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09-28-2023 , 03:49 PM

#101

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Those aren't arguments that have been made in this thread, at least not from me.

As Rococo pointed out earlier ITT, "identity politics" is usually used as a pejorative. Based on your definitions at least, I see nothing objectionable about it. So I guess my question is open to anyone who cares to answer it.

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09-28-2023 , 03:50 PM

#102

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The homeless, fallen soldiers, social security receipents, and felons aren't identity groups

Why not?

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In order for something to be identity politics, it has to deal with an identity group.

So what is an "identity group?" and what does "identity politics" mean to you? What identity group is Trudeau doing the identity politics on?

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09-28-2023 , 03:56 PM

#103

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

If there was some Muslim themed movie where everyone was wearing green to it (that is their color for those who don't know) and Trudeau and his son wore green and posted a pic on Twitter, that would also be doing an act of identity politics.

oh...that's the example...

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09-28-2023 , 03:58 PM

#104

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oh...that's the example...

You have a problem with Muslim themed movies?

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09-28-2023 , 04:00 PM

#105

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Why not?

So what is an "identity group?" and what does "identity politics" mean to you? What identity group is Trudeau doing the identity politics on?

I know you aren't this stupid but I answered that question in the post you quoted

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09-28-2023 , 04:05 PM

#106

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Identity politics is traditionally viewed as being promoted by the ruling class to distract from class politics, which would rather treat people based upon their commonalities than their differences.

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09-28-2023 , 04:07 PM

#107

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You have a problem with Muslim themed movies?

I don't.

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09-28-2023 , 04:08 PM

#108

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I don't.

Then can you explain your posting or is it just more of your typical innanity?

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09-28-2023 , 04:09 PM

#109

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Dude, I think you have your posters confused. That's the first time corpus has posted ITT.

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09-28-2023 , 04:10 PM

#110

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Identity politics is traditionally viewed as being promoted by the ruling class to distract from class politics, which would rather treat people based upon their commonalities than their differences.

Ok, that definitely helps me understand, thanks.

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09-28-2023 , 04:10 PM

#111

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Dude, I think you have your posters confused. That's the first time corpus has posted ITT.

He's a bit flustered, you can tell.

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09-28-2023 , 04:11 PM

#112

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I posted it as it's a textbook example of why I don't have a problem with Muslim themed movies.

I think Victor directed this one btw.

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09-28-2023 , 04:16 PM

#113

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Dude, I think you have your posters confused. That's the first time corpus has posted ITT.

Yes although my question to him is still going to be appropriate about 90% of the time.

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09-28-2023 , 04:18 PM

#114

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I disagree with your assessment because reasons.

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09-28-2023 , 05:09 PM

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I said earlier in this thread that it was a bad sign that everyone in the poll choose the you are a weird dude choice, but it seems everyone except Lucky did that. That aint better for the OP. Just saying.

All the best.

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09-28-2023 , 05:38 PM

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I'm curious about the difference between identity groups and special interest groups in LuckboxWorld.

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09-28-2023 , 05:42 PM

#117

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It's very simple: women and Muslims are identity groups, veterans and SS recipients are special interest groups.

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09-28-2023 , 05:47 PM

#118

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I'm curious about the difference between identity groups and special interest groups in LuckboxWorld.

Identity groups tend to be categories that are seen as immutable and fundamental to the core essence of an individuals. E.g. homosexuals as opposed to say primary school teachers. That's not Luckbox world that's just how it is. I thought this was a politics forum?

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09-28-2023 , 05:48 PM

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Luckbox world is never how it is. Just saying. Hey, at least the OP can count on you as a supporter in the future. That's good, he can clearly use the help.

All the best.

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09-28-2023 , 05:50 PM

#120

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What about nuns?

Baldrick: My dad was a nun.
Blackadder: No, Baldrick, he wasn't.
Baldrick: Sure he was. Every time he was in court and the judge asked "occupation?", he'd say "none".

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09-28-2023 , 05:54 PM

#121

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What about nuns?

Baldrick: My dad was a nun.
Blackadder: No, Baldrick, he wasn't.
Baldrick: Sure he was. Every time he was in court and the judge asked "occupation?", he'd say "none".

Catholics are an identity group, nuns are an interest group.

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09-28-2023 , 06:16 PM

#122

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I think I'm more confused than before, but eda's answer does kinda make sense as well.

It’s just like woke or cancel culture or a host of other “what’s angering me today” hot topics. There’s absolutely no rule that the people using the terms have any understanding of what they mean beyond the fact they don’t like certain things. I mean if you think about it, why would anybody expect culture warriors to have more intellectual heft than that?

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09-28-2023 , 06:28 PM

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Who decides what is "immutable and fundamental" to someone's "core essence". I've known quite a few teachers that would put themselves in that category. What about veterans? Gun owners? Farmers? Try telling one of them it's not part of their "core essence".

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09-28-2023 , 06:30 PM

#124

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Don't really even need to go that far afield - I imagine quite a few poker players consider being a poker player a part of their identity.

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09-28-2023 , 06:35 PM

#125

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We all decide this, collectively. This is politics not chemistry. There isn't some hard and fast rule here.

Why do we say "the shiny big red spiky ball" as opposed to "the spiky red big shiny ball?"?

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