Not always. I congratulated you on your choice not to take heroin.

All the best.

Everything you posted here is a total lie. Joe Rogan was actually scheduled to get the vaccine just before a UFC fight but there was a schedule hiccup. He than contracted covid and like many concluded he had natural antibodies. In many countries that meets the vaccine passport requirements

As well he told his parents to get vaccinated and repeatedly on his show said if your a senior or have co-morbidities get the vaccine. His debates were around healthy young males getting the vaccine

He has more than one doctor on that has said get the vaccine including Dr Gupta and Dr Peter Hotex a leading expert on vaccines who strongly advised getting vaccines

Maybe stop spreading the CNN crap

So was Rogan lying when he apologized for spreading vaccine disinformation?

Yeah, what about that CNN! Did Rogan get the vaccine after his "hiccup?" Maybe he planned to be "immunized" like Aaron Rogers! Also, we doing that CNN wager you talked about earlier? Something about Lemon and some other dude being fired.

All the best.

He never did apologize at all about that. Media again got that incorrect. He clarified why he had the guests on .He apologized for the N word

Since so many here admit they have not ever listened to a Joe Rogan podcast I would suggest this one with (now) fellow Righty, Russell Brand below or the Transcript of it here.

I have not re-listened to it and choose it because I know it will pass. I just recall thinking both these guys over lap as hippie type lefties when I first listened to it.

I am not going to try and summarize it all here but I just started it up and here are the first two issues they engage in...


- first issue (13.44) is Joe rogan taking on people who say Slavery is in the rear view mirror, why do we keep talking about it. Joe gives an impassioned reason as to how the very real consequences of slavery live on today and have not been addressed. (Score 1- clearly Right wing)

- joe then goes (14.34) on to decry how policing and the system, keep people trapped in a loop of perpetual poverty and crime (Score 2 - calling out institutional racism and calling it corrupt - clearly right wing)

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e_d and others would have you believe Joe is right because his audience are mostly young males who tend right and he layers on that the proof 'he shares anti vax messaging with them'.


Who besides Joe Rogan is sharing this type of lefty stuff and defending his endorsement of Bernie in a messaging format that is heard by as many young righties? Why is that, the bulk of conversations pre covid not a consideration?

As i recall his discussion with Andrew Yang is another where you get more talk on belief systems that would define them as left or right.

All this dirp **** is cringe, imagine being a middle aged bloke typing that out.

Funny as I was just looking for some videos on Joe and I came across a video, of all people, the two Young Turk hosts, Cenk and Ana who I never follow.

They were trying to discuss the Snow White and Seven Dwarfs controversy, and they both admitted they did not know if 'dwarf' ws the current appropriate politically correct term and said since it was being used in all the media right now, they would use it.

They then both looked at the screen and said they expected if it was not politically correct NOW, they would get called out by people to the left of them and then they added, if it changes and becomes incorrect in the future, they expect people to the left of them will still pull up, cut and strip it of context, to then 'get them' for using language in the past that was considered appropriate and had changed.

They said directly 'yes we are calling out you on the far left who know you do this, with these purity tests and virtue signalling'.

I would not have guessed people as far left as those two and that show were still attacked from their left flank for not being pure enough.

Welcome to Trolly world.

OK

Joe Rogan Apologizes Amid Spotify’s Vaccine Controversy

Ah yes, Cenk Uygur is a serious person that I should listen to and take seriously.

I hope you take the time to actually listen to at least one of his podcasts before assuming anything about him. I know they are long and I cited two above. But generally speaking if I jumped in to any discussion of people you listened to or Trolly did or any of the people saying they have never listened to anything and I had an opinion the person was an idiot, or whatever, while admitting i had never listened to any of his episodes, I think that would be heavily criticized. And I am not saying you are being too critical.


I don't think Joe is an idiot at all. But I have a bias and sympathy for people I feel are more hippie type skeptics.

That comes from me knowing the dangers Big Pharma and an increasing amount of medical Data poses and finding very few people I talk to know that, and they typically react as if you are crazy to assume Big Pharma could coopt the Science and Data that we might get.

I posted in another thread all the very respected and independent bodies sounding the alarm on how Big Pharma is not only driving most science and including and excluding what they want reaching the public but they are using law suits to silence any and all dissent, especially the stuff that might come out of Universities. They are using the threat of the cost of litigation to make Universities and others not use their voice.

Soon we will have, just as in politics, Big Pharma (the special interest group) just ghost writing all data disclosures, as they are currently doing to a smaller extent, and when people like myself or Rogan, raise skepticism, you will have others say 'where is the data, where is the proof' and treat you like an idiot if you cannot find some, mean while Big pharma has silenced it.

i think Monty would cite this type of stuff as Shuffle like, but then he is calling all the very reputable Universities and institutions raising this exact alarm, Shuffle' like.

/tangential rant

joe Rogan is a stand up comedian. That is how he started his career and what has always sustained him below everything else he has done.

He got a couple sitcom roles due to his comedy.

I don't personally enjoy his stand-up and would not go see him.

Haven't read every post yet, but I saw Dave Chappelle was brought up, and I have to say, Dave is clearly transphobic, and has other socially regressive views, and this has been the case for decades. I've been saying this forever. And he's not going to buck the trend of humanity and get LESS set in these ways as he ages.

Now, I still enjoy his standup and Chappelle's Show, and I have zero interest in "cancelling" him or whatever, although if he DOES get cancelled it's pretty much his own fault.

I've always had this helpful ability to enjoy humor from those with ideologies with which I strongly disagree. The South Park creators are libertarian-adjacent contrarians, but that has always been a brilliant and funny show.

I hope everyone pays attention to this and understands this is EXACTLY the joe Rogan slander we are seeing play out.


Joe Rogan had a belief that the science said that young people (i think males below 15) had a greater chance of bad side effects (myocarditis) from the vaccine then they had from getting covid and based on that they should be allowed to choose whether they take ht3e vaccine or not to 'protect others'.

He talked about his struggles with mandating people to take the vaccine based on 'protecting others'.

Joe then brought on a person he respected who challenged him on that belief and they discussed it. Joe thought the guy had the data wrong and the guy proved he did not. You watched in real time as Joe realized his mistake, and eventually accepted it, and stated he was wrong.


That is what Trolly NEEDS you to believe is anti vax as he really has nothing better and thus the slander and lie must be pushed and said enough that people not aware accept it.

It is exactly what Trump does to convince the right. No different.


Joe was wrong and Trolly is using his admission and statement that he was wrong to say Joe admitted to spreading anti vax disinformation when that is not what he did. Not even a little bit.

But Trolly won't relent, just as Trump never would as the purpose is not truth but just to say it enough here, that people will assume it must be true.

Edit here is video

I don't give a flying **** about the Young Turks, never watched more than a minute or two of any of their clips, but it seems like the context of the majority of the n-words I heard there were the hosts repeating what somebody else said or wrote. That hits me different compared to other uses of that word. Yeah, I get the psychic damage of merely uttering the word is so profound that we should all say "the n-word" instead of the actual word regardless of context, but, you know, I don't want to punish anybody for a similar thing as to when high-school kids are made to read out loud Huckleberry Finn.

(not saying you are necessarily wanting to punish anybody, you're just saying he shouldn't be taken seriously, don't mean to misrepresent your argument)

learned something today as I don't follow Cenk and his show but would not have guessed they fail the left purity tests but here is Trolly ready and willing with the test proof.



FWIW Trolly I am fine with you defining him however you want. I am not going to defend him as I don't know his views.

Trolley does not represent the left. The demand for purity and the sily name calling thingy crowd are a tiny fringe group.

A noisy group who can do lot of damage in pushing so many into the arms of the right but still ~no-one

also, George Carlin, sooooooooooooo overrated

The last seriously like 20 years of his stand-up were crotchety grumblings about how he wishes everyone were dead. Ok, his one bit about baseball vs football is good.

And Russell Brand has definitely made a rightward turn. Post-prime comedians going reactionary is nothing new. Adam Corolla, Dennis Miller, and many others I can't be assed to think about.

This is where America is at today: morons on YouTube write themselves free hall passes to say whatever racial slurs they want, act like preschoolers, and people will go to the mat to defend their antics. It’s all so infantilized and embarrassing.

Slapping a headline on something doesn't make the headline true. But it's a good tactic to get the low info crowd fired up.

Let's look at the actual apology:

that is the same for the vast majority of Rogan's usages as well.

I discussed this with Chez above.

Rogan is of a view that it is silly and largely meaningless to say the "Nword' in most instances as the person not only knows what you mean but just replaces the word in their head. So it all optics (virtue signaling) and i largely agree with that view.

That means :
Reporter 1 : that Politician just said the Nword, but we mean the real word and not the word we are using that abbreviation for'
Rogan : That politician just said ni**er

Chez believes the more cumbersome form should be said and I do not. I do not know POC who would think it was wrong to use the word in that spot but i understand some activists will attack people for using the actual word, so I get the fear. I would bet the bulk of those activists are Ooboo's who are not POC and are just offended on their behalf.

But it becomes both cumbersome and confusing to keep saying the 'NWord' and people are not sure if you mean for them to consider that is the actual word, or the more political correct replacement.

Actually I called it Shuffle lite, because it is not full blown different planet stuff, but you posting hundreds of times daily on a variety of threads, along with the over time changes in your posting content gives the feel that that you underestimate the power of the derp side. If you will not fight, then you will meet your destiny.

The Bernie campaign had to officially disown Cenk. Not even because of his politics but because he can’t stop behaving like an infant.

And this is... different compared to the America of any other day of its history?

No. We've always been terrible, and always will be. It's the human condition. This is why it's so important to construct a strong financial and social safety net for all peoples. We can't help ourselves.