Cuepee--Joe's been totally sucked into the HardMen thing--probably part of the reason he's drawn to these seal/military politicians. He thinks they'll save us. And the ones in his personal life have probably been clowning on him for years for being a lib lol It's tough to hold on to the libertarian thing as you drift further into social conservatism--eventually it just poof goes away

The Desantis blip is just another little step along the path tons of us have been noticing for years now.

It's worth mentioning that colion clown was part of an org. who doesn't want Joe or people like him to be able to own guns

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/7/2...ify-moderation

This sounded super familiar to me:

I don't think there is a single media figure who pushes back on more right leaning guests (military, other) than Rogan when it comes to the laundry list of issues, that are many of the main issues anyone would use to rate a Politician in terms of left/right leanings.

No Politician is perfectly left of right outside maybe Bernie. What is Hilary? What is Biden? What is Joe?

I maintain that for Joe's audience that tune in to him (white male bro's), that is probably the ONLY place they hear far left Bernie like "socialist" positions in all of those areas. They hear Joe actively engage with right leaning guests and refute their right tropes and almost always get the guest to acknowledge all or part of his Bernie like "socialist" positions.


The call to ignore that in its entirety by O.A.F.K and others is absurd. A loan voice that can penetrate the usual 'Bro wall of right media tropes, with a strong Bernie like message in SO MANY areas' is an important thing for those 'white bro's' to hear.

There are a lot of people who have no clue how much like Bernie, Joe is in so many areas, some who remain willfully blind as they do not want to consider it. Others are just interested in trying to cancel and slander him at all costs, with no regard for honest and fullesome appraisal.

lol

Same can be said for Joe's more "socialist" far left leaning views.

His 'white bro' audience hearing him aggressively push back on the idea that POC just need to pull up their bootstraps as enough has been done for them and him saying 'no, there are all sorts of systemic racist issues that still need to be addressed and fixed'

Them hearing over a decade his views on the drug war, over policing, military type policing, the military complex, wealth inequality, etc. All positions he argues that are closer to Bernie than Hilary or Biden, let alone 'right' leaning.

What impact can the 'white bro's' hearing that from someone they enjoy and respect have? Especially when they may NEVER hear it anywhere else they voluntarily tune in.

Only Trolly thinks the 'white bro' type is otherwise tuning in to left leaning sources and getting their data that way and thus that statement is funny.

I mean, Joe Rogan was a bit player on NewsRadio who got a show hosting people eating bugs and pig testes.

After that he dove headfirst into the classic short man syndrome of getting tattoos, getting on HGH, and worshipping MMA in an effort to appear tough, and not a lilliputian failed standup comic.

Not sure why anyone would consider him an arbiter of politics, he's not intelligent by any means, he was horrible at stand up (his true passion) and he's a mid life Ed Hardy shirt wearing clown who hosts and platforms white supremacists and conspiracy theorists.

Nobody serious is hanging on this guys words.

Maybe white men should try reading books?

WHo is saying any of the things you are saying? You seem to be making up your own dialogue and responding to it.

Rogan has a huge audience, regardless of what we think of him. That audience has a very large group of typical white Bro type males who tend to digest right and alt right media more than any other type.

He is one of the only places they would voluntarily go and hear a guy, whom they respect, who has and argues many progressive left social and societal views. It does not matter how we view his resume. That he shares a far left view regularly and takes on those who tend to repeat right talking points and gets them to acknowledge flaws in right talking points is important. ANyone with a platform doing that is a good thing.


Sure.

And we also need more popular media figures and platforms were those white males go to give them other than the typical right leaning messages, that Rogan so often takes on and gets the guests to agree with his progressive left positions.

Both are necessary and good.

Rogan’s progressive left positions, like voting for Ron DeSantis.

No. These ones.

You know the ones, none of you want to discuss because you are busy applying the far left purity test which says we only consider what we think are the worst things in your resume while excluding everything else.

You really do demonstrate everyday the cancel culture left purity test garbage mindset which demands every person be a cartoon caricature like purest, which in reality no person really lives up to.

How many times did Rogan give a platform to Gavin McInnes, whose white supremacist organization was in contact with the White House about 1/6/21 and the operational "needs" necessary for "success"?



Very progressive of him to have a guy who uses buttplugs as a way to combat liberalism, but did they discuss his abhorrent views on race?

When Saruman imprisoned Gandalf and started sacking Rohan, I had him down as a baddy, but to be fair, I should have still taken into account all his good deeds and input when he was chief of the White Council.

This is actually a MUCH more valid example than something something random "lefty" plucked from the ether Chomsky whose mention is merely indicative of pure flailing and straw grasping.

Comparing someone who says he might vote for the wrong person to someone who betrays God (and everyone on Earth) for power, actually sums the issue up really well.

Humans are complex, and trying to fit them into "good" and "evil" is not going to work except in the most extreme circumstances.

To be clear I was not being remotely serious, that should be obvious, but even when being ridiculous, Im still a million more miles on point than dragging Chomsky into the debate.

Part of it is that Rogan is probably a little dumb/shallow to have consistent ideology overall. I'm sure I could talk to him for an hour and repeat libertarian talking points that'll be superficially convincing enough that he'll temporarily agree that government interference in the market is why there is a healthcare crisis and the poor would better off with lower taxes and smaller safety nets. That's why stuff like being pro Desantis makes more sense than his inconsistent Washoe like regurgitation of the last thing he happened to hear.

check these predictions out, how is this so accurate, or is it accurate?

QP, you got the BioWoman phrase coined, please leave it at that and drop this white bro nonsense. Please revert to the long standing white bread.
Thanks

Joe Rogaine is the latest rat to jump off the sinking Trump ship.

Cognitive dissonance incoming for the incel crew.

If Chomsky was pro Desantis I think most people would say they no longer understand Chomsky's politics. That's pretty honest. Unlike people who claim it's crazy to call Rogan anything but a liberal but also don't think the Desantis love is particularly shocking.

Yes, everyone who has followed Rogan the last 6 years while he has declined to interview Trump will be absolutely stunned when he continues to not interview him.

FWIW, Trump and Biden would both be disastrous interviews. Rogan doesn't push back on his guests ideas as much as many would like (unless it is something he really cares about like hunting or martial arts), but he does force his guests to actually articulate a thought and defend it. And neither of these men have the mental faculties at this point to do this.

If my understanding of how words work is correct, one typically needs to be on something in order to jump off of it.

I'm just glad we live in this particular dimension where Joe Rogan is uber rich and popular and can turn down presidential interviews

fwiw u still can push back on right conspiracy issues and still be a right winger .
doesnt mean u automatically a lefty by doing it.
tho i agree its almost an extinct phenomenon like the dinosaurs to see a right winger do it.
liz cheney seem a rare example.

I thought they shared a background which included being completely talentless at their desired skillset (stand up comedy/real estate), they become popular from mouthbreathing media (WWE/Apprentice/Joe Rogan Podcast) vs being irrelevant in their industry, they command large swaths of sub intelligent man children while playing the aggrieved victim.

There's also the proximity to white supremacists and life-loser conspiracy theorist blowhards(Proud Boys for both, Alex Jones for both, Roger Stone for Orangina, Milo Y and Ben Shapiro for Rogaine)

Both men are known for pushing the baseless "Covid treatments" hydroxy and ivermectin (probably pushing Russian scripted disinfo to kill as many Americans as possible, aka the dumbest Americans in the country, aka yokels and bearded incels who take what Rogan and Trump say as gospel).

Both rely on the incel wannabe bro demographic, and use American flag imagery to great effect to allow an easy entry point for the patriotic incels in this demo.

There's the similarity in which they both trash Dr Fauci, someone who reached the pinnacle of his field and is worldwide respected by his peers (maybe jealousy for being such band stand up comic/real estate mogul?)




Funny how Rogaine has great things to say about Rand Paul, the same Rand Paul who delivered a hand written note to Vladimir Putin on behalf of Donnie Dementia, and who was bodyslammed verbally by John McCain a year prior to that gofer errand.


I can find dozens more examples of Rogan parroting Trump talking points and offering him and his dumbass ideas shade from ridicule, here's one of Rogaine factually stating how hydroxy was killing vs saving yokels, then giving out a fee fee whitewashing of how Trump's endorsement makes the drug political (lol)


No, no connection at all between Joe Rogaine and Donnie Diapers. Joe never talks about him, they never share the same ideas, guests, mindsets.

I'd bet Rogan is trashing Ukraine and trying to whitewash Russia's unprovoked war, I'm positive he's smart enough to not call Putin a savvy genius though.