It's hilarious watching pizzagate chuds scramble to keep people from realizing the truth

Lol... Have you been living under a rock the last four years?

You're wrong, they have a 2 hour documentary coming out in the new year. Maybe they'll release it on Disney+, it'll be fun for the whole family.

You mean the actual story that Trump and Barr let Epstein be murdered right

Not even Barr is that dumb.

The list of suspects is a mile long.

But you do have a point, Trump supporters forget that he is implicated in this as well.

Maybe we could talk about the fact that Trump is also implicated. How could he have a role in this?

I don't know too much about it, but he was accused of raping a woman when she was 13 at Epstein's apartment.

She withdrew her lawsuit due to death threats, or maybe she got payed off, or was lying, who knows.

According to vox, mainstream media didn't pick it up because they had several other rape allegations on Trump from sources that were not anonymous(these woman were not underage). But in light of ABC's recent actions, maybe the media wanted to kill this story too. If she were telling the truth, I could see why'd she withdraw without any support.

Let's stop pretending there are only accusations on the left or right. Whichever side you're on, I think we can all agree, this is just plain wrong and everyone involved needs to go down.

I think he's saying that reality has jumped the shark and now it's all just for fun (in addition to life and death still).

This is your hold-up here? Because the media reports negative things about politicians, that politicians and media cannot be in cahoots?
Seems like a very problematic argument.

As problematic as disbelieving someone died because the media reports contradicting theories whether his death was murder or suicide?

Not my point at all

Very disappointing long interview with his royal thingy, Prince Andrew last night.

Having denied any memory of the specific accusations, its so annoying he wasn't quizzed on whether he had sexual activity with, or been massaged by, anyone (and specifically young women) while staying with epstein/maxwell.

The Duke of York has finally got the point, which he should have done before he gave that interview, and has retired from public life indefinitely. He also says he will co-operate with law enforcement as required.

The royal family sending out a tweet seems weird to me for some reason.

They're probably part of the Psy-Op, and this is what the Psy-Op entails.

Would have been better to get someone else to do the interviews as well as write the press release.

'if required' doing a lot of work there.

I wish Luckbox was here. I would like his take on the media suddenly starting to show interest in Epstein's guards.

Also, credit where it is due. He did accurately predict the cover-up of the Antifa guy who was assassinated.

...I thought the Antifa guy was alive?

I had a few questions in light of Prince Andrew getting the boot.

I was wondering if the Monarchy benefits the UK more than it receives via their land taxes given to the state and tourism. Do people in the UK generally like having a Monarchy and the Royal Family?

Also, how big a deal is it that he got sacked and lost his salary? Is it like, the most shameful thing ever that he can never show his face in public again or is it a "it is what it is" kind of a thing?

I think we make an absolute fortune from them.

People do seem to like it for some reason. Even labour have to pretend they don't mind them. ***em i say - they can stay as long as I don't have to show them any respect.

I'm sure poor old andy will get over the shame. far far more chance he will return to public view than end up in in court

Like with most things you have the two extremes, the people who absolutely despise the Monarchy, and the one's who adore them (both can be fairly insufferable to be around...).
I'd say most people don't massively care one way or another, as they don't really have any affect on people's day-to-day lives. It also depends on who it is.

The Queen is well respected by most people as she comes across very dignified and dedicated (you don't see her melting down and having baby tantrums on twitter). Others are less well liked - recent poll.

Thanks, appreciate the responses.

I doubt we will ever get Bill Clinton to even do an interview, let alone see a prison cell.

At least Prince Andrew said he is willing to talk to the police, though I also doubt anything will come of it.

Support for the Queen herself, at better than 60/40, is the single most consistent factor in the history of British opinion polling and has been constant throughout her reign.

The Duke of York hasn't been sacked from anything, though numerous charities may now delete him as a patron, and he never received any salary from the public purse anyway. What he will lose is sums from the Sovereign Grant to cover travel expenses for royal duties, because he won't be doing those duties.

He certainly can't show his face right now, after that misjudged interview, and it remains to be seen if the US law authorities wish to make a case against him. Epstein may be dead, but investigations against Ghislaine Maxwell (and, presumably, her associates) continue.

It's not all that long since we had a former King who was considered a bit of a Nazi during the Second World War and had to be pushed off to govern the Bahamas to keep him out of the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII

In fairness Prince Andrew and Epstein seemed to have a private relationship that involved being around underage girls a lot. And the Bill Clinton link seems to swirl mainly around Epstein volunteering to fly Clinton to Africa charity stuff.

Not exactly apples to apples.

True, there currently aren't any direct accusations of Clinton as there is with Prince Andrew, but Bill has been accused of raping woman in the past. He's also ridden on Epstein's private jet many times and even visited his private island.