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07-06-2019 , 08:50 PM
Kind of surprised Q Anon got their first scalp With Jeffery Epstein
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07-07-2019 , 11:52 PM


Not sure if this is the proper thread, thought about creating a new thread for this, but will leave that up to Well Named. Epstein knows a lot of politicians. Bill Clinton, Orange man, Princes. Seems like huge names will be going down for raping minors in the next year or 2 from connections with this or the NVIKIM sex cult that also trafficked minors.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cou...fficking-group

"Court documents revealed this week confirmed that the father of 2020 Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand once worked as a lobbyist for a secretive sex cult, but left after the upstate New York group sued him, according to a report.

The documents backed up previous accounts that the New York Democrat's father, Doug Rutnik, worked for Albany-based Nxivm for four months in 2004 at a rate of $25,000 per month, Big League Politics reported.


Rutnik was sued when he attempted to distance himself from the group before reaching a settlement.

“Her father Doug Rutnik came to work as a consultant for NXIVM. ... He was fired, they sued him, and they had to pay him $100,000,” former NXIVM employee Frank Parlato told Big League Politics. “Her father’s wife, her stepmother, was also a member of NXIVM. ... Doug got her into the cult, Gillibrand’s father got Gillibrand’s future stepmother into the cult. Doug left the cult because he was sued. Clare Bronfman, after her father was sued, donated money to Gillibrand. Gillibrand accepted it.”"


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/16/n...h-raniere.html
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07-08-2019 , 09:52 PM
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The visitors each said they were greeted by a tall woman who spoke with an Eastern European accent, who led guests up a marble staircase to a study on another floor. At the base of the stairwell, one of the visitors said, Mr. Epstein had placed a chess board with custom figurines dressed in underwear — each piece, he noted, was modeled after one of his staffers.

He decorated the home with other oddities, like a life-size female doll in a wedding dress hanging from a chandelier, and had arranged a small dining room to resemble a beach scene.
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The article describes a main hallway that was covered with rows of artificial eyeballs from England that had been made for wounded soldiers.
*True Dectective guy furiously scribbling notes*

https://nyti.ms/2XALDns
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07-09-2019 , 05:45 AM
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*True Dectective guy furiously scribbling notes*

https://nyti.ms/2XALDns
The Epstein case is just massive. I don't much like the thought of him getting a deal but the truth on everything that has been going on by some of the most rich and powerful is worth one hell of a price.

So much to reveal on so many powerful figures that it's still hard to believe it will happen.
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07-09-2019 , 10:37 PM
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JEFFREY EPSTEIN SHIPPED*a shredder from the U.S. Virgin Islands to his Palm Beach home in July 2008, shortly after reaching a non-prosecution agreement with then-U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta, maritime records show. Then, in March of this year, shortly after a Florida federal judge invalidated that agreement, Epstein shipped a tile and carpet extractor from the Virgin Islands to his Manhattan townhouse, the records show.
*True Detective guy's pencil breaks*

"slow down you're going to fast!"

https://theintercept.com/2019/07/09/...king-shredder/
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07-10-2019 , 11:16 AM
So do we need a containment thread for all things Jeffrey Epstein?

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Epstein’s name, I was told, had been raised by the Trump transition team when Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who’d infamously cut Epstein a non-prosecution plea deal back in 2007, was being interviewed for the job of labor secretary. The plea deal put a hard stop to a separate federal investigation of alleged sex crimes with minors and trafficking.

“Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?” Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he’d had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He’d cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein’s attorneys because he had “been told” to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...ght?ref=scroll
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07-10-2019 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Kind of surprised Q Anon got their first scalp With Jeffery Epstein
Epstein stuff is really interesting. Particularly the reports that Epstein's wealth is basically unaccounted for. Lots of theories floating around that Epstein was running a blackmailing operation and that that was his true business.
I'm not sure what to think myself but the fact that it has tie-ins with Qanon related stuff means that we should be extremely skeptical of both official and unofficial narratives--given that qanon is more or less a propaganda/disinformation campaign.
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07-10-2019 , 12:48 PM

This video is from 7 months ago and it's an interview of a lawyer who has been caught up in Epstein related stuff who said that Trump has been helpful to him.
There is another longer video on the same channel that explores Trump/Epstein connections that is also worth a watch. The takeaway is that Trump (like most everybody it seems) has certainly known about Epstein for a long time. Epstein’s black book apparently didn't just have 1 phone number for Trump but 14 of them.
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07-10-2019 , 01:35 PM
Why does this all come out now though? Surely they had enough to get this guy for years.

Meanwhile the SDNY reports to Barr, who reports to Trump. Were they doing this on their own or at the behest of Barr/Trump? Is Trump firing a warning shot at the rich and powerful elite who are on Epstein's list? Support me in 2020 or get your names exposed and lives ruined.

Bear in mind that Trump knows he's a dead man walking. If he loses the election in 2020 he's basically facing criminal indictments on all manner of things the second he leaves the White House and will likely die in prison.
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07-10-2019 , 01:37 PM
It’s also both interesting and unsurprising that Epstein sued Bradley Edwards (the lawyer who represented a number of Epstein’s victims against Epstein). After Edwards got that suit dismissed, Edwards sued Epstein for malicious prosecution; and Edwards appears to have settled that case on favorable terms.

My hot take prediction: people close to Epstein (e.g. Ghislaine Maxwell, Virginia Roberts and the European woman who is now a commercial pilot) roll on Epstein and whoever else was involved and Epstein goes down for life. Others get sucked into the vortex. I would think that SDNY prosecutors will never offer Epstein a deal. With this much publicity, anyone pressuring line prosecutors to go easy on Epstein will themselves be outed and become positively radioactive.
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07-10-2019 , 01:54 PM
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Why does this all come out now though? Surely they had enough to get this guy for years.

Meanwhile the SDNY reports to Barr, who reports to Trump. Were they doing this on their own or at the behest of Barr/Trump? Is Trump firing a warning shot at the rich and powerful elite who are on Epstein's list? Support me in 2020 or get your names exposed and lives ruined.

Bear in mind that Trump knows he's a dead man walking. If he loses the election in 2020 he's basically facing criminal indictments on all manner of things the second he leaves the White House and will likely die in prison.
This case was opened by the southern district of N.Y., Was it not?
I don't think this has anything to do with Trump as far as the legal action being taken.
As far as I know, the U.S prosecutor in charge of the case in Florida a decade ago, who practically let Epstein off, was hired by Trump as labor Secretary.
I'm not in any way implying that Trump is guilty of anything.
Other than incompetence. He did once boast how he's going to hire the best people, ha ha.
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07-10-2019 , 02:00 PM
There's a picture of his madam with an english prince and an alleged victim as well as her also being at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. Sick stuff, and they obviously thought enough of her to give an invite...
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07-10-2019 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker

Bear in mind that Trump knows he's a dead man walking. If he loses the election in 2020 he's basically facing criminal indictments on all manner of things the second he leaves the White House and will likely die in prison.
Yeah that's a no.
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07-10-2019 , 02:11 PM
Some fun factoids are that Barr's father apparently gave Epstein his first job teaching math at the Dalton school and that Comey's daughter is one of the prosecutors. Can read about the Barr connection here. The Epstein rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than you think
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07-10-2019 , 03:10 PM
Thanks for that link Lucky.
The person that has intrigued me even more than this Epstein is Alan Dershowitz. Very curious how he was once a liberal and now one of President Trumps most staunch supporters.
I don't want to imply anything about Trump. Clinton and many more celebrities had friendly relations with Epstein. The rich roll with the rich I guess.
But this Dershowitz, something really fishy about him.
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07-10-2019 , 03:21 PM
Acosta answering questions from the press right now. Interesting stuff.

As I recall it, two of the victims' lawyers accused Dershowitz of child molestation; he called them liars; they sued him for defamation. After Dershowitz provided travel records showing that he couldn't have been where they said he was at the times they said offenses occurred, their libel claims against Dershowitz were dismissed and the victims' lawyers indicated that Dershowitz should not have been accused of misconduct.
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07-10-2019 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Acosta answering questions from the press right now. Interesting stuff.
I don't suppose anyone asked him about who it was that told him Epstein is intelligence and that he should back off? Watching it now and that should have been the first question.
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07-10-2019 , 05:19 PM
I'm, like, totally, like, not, like, implying, like... that uh... Trump, like did anything wrong but...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/n...e-epstein.html

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But the new indictment has also unexpectedly renewed scrutiny of another prosecutor’s treatment of Mr. Epstein: the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr.

During a hearing in 2011, a seasoned sex-crimes prosecutor from Mr. Vance’s office argued forcefully in court that Mr. Epstein, who had been convicted in Florida of soliciting an underage prostitute, should not be registered as a top-level sex offender in New York.

Instead, the prosecutor, Jennifer Gaffney, asked a judge to reduce Mr. Epstein’s sex-offender status to the lowest possible classification, which would have limited the personal information available to the public, and would have kept him from being listed on a registry of sex offenders for life.

Justice Ruth Pickholz vehemently denied the request and expressed incredulity that the district attorney’s office would argue in support of a man accused of sexually molesting dozens of teenage girls in Florida.

“I have to tell you, I’m a little overwhelmed because I have never seen a prosecutor’s office do anything like this,” the judge told Ms. Gaffney.
And, wow is that Dershowitz guy fishy...

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07-10-2019 , 05:37 PM
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I don't suppose anyone asked him about who it was that told him Epstein is intelligence and that he should back off? Watching it now and that should have been the first question.
What's this about?
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07-10-2019 , 05:58 PM
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What's this about?
From this recent article . It's all based on anonymous sourcing obviously and would have been denied.

Her 2002 piece on Epstein is worth a look at too.
One more I tried to warn you about sleazy billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in 2003

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07-10-2019 , 07:36 PM
That was a question to Acosta, who basically said “don’t believe everything you read” or some similar and slightly vague denial
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07-10-2019 , 08:54 PM
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That was a question to Acosta, who basically said “don’t believe everything you read” or some similar and slightly vague denial
I've watched the presser twice now.

I found him credible, and I think his comments make sense. However there are clearly some massive elephants in the room. The first few that come to mind...

Why did you have to force the state/local prosecutor to forgo their more lenient deal and instead take your slightly more punative deal?

What was the reason that the state/local prosecutor gave you for attempting to give Epstein a lenient deal?

Could you have filed any charges or complaints against the state/local prosecutor for any unethical actions?

Did the state grand jury have other charges brought to them for consideration which they refused?

I think Acosta still has some serious questions ahead of him.

I thought his answer about the "intelligence asset" detail was wholly insufficient and amounts to evading the question. If there is anything to it, I'm certain it's highly classified, and he cannot talk about it but also doesn't want to have any public comments about it in any form.
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07-10-2019 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
I'm, like, totally, like, not, like, implying, like... that uh... Trump, like did anything wrong but...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/n...e-epstein.html



And, wow is that Dershowitz guy fishy...
Cyrus Vance I'm assuming is a Democrat?
Among the many differences between liberal's and conservatives Lapi is, liberal's have a low tolerance.
Anytime a liberal personality has done something grievous, like Harvey Weinstein for example, or even someone who didn't commit an actual crime like Woody Allen. Liberals are the first to condemn and then boycott them.
Republicans are not the same. We can go over many many examples.

But I'll leave it at that and I won't comment on this any further because it would threaten to derail the thread. And also because you have a great poker mind and I may want your advice on the future.

Kiss ��
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07-10-2019 , 09:44 PM
Vance should be primaried and ran out of Dodge. So many sleezy things have happened on his watch.
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07-10-2019 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
That was a question to Acosta, who basically said “don’t believe everything you read” or some similar and slightly vague denial
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaave...38075902697472
Clip here. "I would hesitate to take this reporting as fact". And then states that he can't address it directly because of their guidelines.
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