As has Trump.

Trump, like Clinton, has been accused of raping several woman; however, he has had an actual accusation from a woman saying he raped her when she was 13 at Epstein's apartment. The media didn't pick it up and she received death threats, so she dropped the lawsuit. To my knowledge, Trumps been on the plane but not the island.

Who killed Epstein, the Clintons or Trump? Maybe it was a bipartisan endeavor.

What's your opinion on John Mark Dougan's claims?

They are basically summarised here, but Shaun has also done some other interesting longer interviews with him, and a lot of videos on the Epstein case in general.



I'm not a big into conspiracies, but the fact Dougan fled to, and was granted asylum in, Russia makes me think that it's highly likely Putin has the 'tapes', and it's also likely Trump may be implicated in them - explaining his hugely pro-Russia stances.

On a recent podcast with Sam Harris, Eric Weinstein said he had one business meeting with Jeffrey Epstein in the early 2000s (before all the pedophilia stuff) at Epstein's house, and his takeaway from the meeting at that time (that has never waivered to this day) was that the Epstein persona was a construct (self-made billionaire philanthropist playboy), and Epstein himself was just an actor playing a part.

Interestingly, he said at the time that Epstein was known for always having a young woman with him bouncing on his knee, but it was always an adult. On the pod he theorized that this was the part the actor was supposed to play, and the later slide into pedophilia was the actor succumbing to his true nature.

Also, he said when he was there he noticed there was a lot of recording devices in the residence, and they weren't hidden particularly well, so that if you had any awareness at all of your surroundings you knew you were being recorded.

So Epstein was pedophile batman?

He didn’t get too into the weeds about who he thought Epstein was acting for, or why. I don’t get the impression he thought Epstein’s aims were all that morally just.

He did say he recorded a 1 hour podcast of his thoughts that he may release at some point, but he isn’t sure.

Christmas ornaments, drywall, and Jeffery Epstein.

Yeh just listened to it. Definitely seems very likely as he seems to be linked to every major intelligence agency (CIA, MI6, Mossad, etc), and suddenly appearing with, supposedly, billions of dollars, and your own island, with no-one knowing where it came from is a tad suspicious.

It's a shame they didn't go more into it, and I'd love to hear that podcast he didn't release. Kind of crazy he implied he wasn't putting it out because he'd received, what he took as, a threat at some party he attended.

Didn't see this. I think I found the podcast but its 2.5 hrs long. Do you know what time they start talking about it?

Kind of in the middle. They didn't really talk about it much. I don't think Sam Harris was very interested in getting into it, and they moved on pretty quick. I pretty much paraphrased everything he said.

Starts at ~49min

God bless.

Finally this guy makes a good joke

Cliffs: If you accept Crowder's "science" of the pressures necessary to break the bones that were broken during Epstein's "suicide", he didn't come close without assistance.

Private Eye

It seems far-fetched to think that at this point, that more "big shoes" will drop regarding Epstein. As every time Barr talks about it he says "no conspiracy involved". But they keep it in the news a bit because it's a story that sells. So I don't think the brief interest on the guards means much. We'll probably hear how they've plead to some minor charges and were fired and that will be it.

Yes.

as much as I care about the eceonomy, and I thinkI care more about it than 99% of posters here.

I dont care if braining down eptein causes volatility in our market, out those people. out them.

This Year UFOs became a little more legit
Slate has an article out today on the mainstreaming of UFO stuff that I've brought up in this thread. It's "interesting" for sure.

I remember there were 2 mass shooting events back to back when the Epstein trial was all over the mainstream media. Epstein was arrested on July 6th and died on August 10th. The two mass shootings took place on Aug 3rd (22 dead, 24 injured) and Aug 4th (10 dead, 27 injured.) At the time conspiracy circles said these shooting were ordered by elite pedophile psychopaths using MKUltra programmed assets as shooters to flood Epstein out of the main news cycle.

It turns out these were the two of the largest shootings of the year occurring back to back at the height of the Epstein outrage. The only other 10+ dead shooting was on May 31st.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...States_in_2019

Was he successful?

He was wearing a protective neck harness with a force meter on it. He actually appeared to put in a genuine effort to exert the kind of pressures necessary to break the bones that were broken in Epstein. He didn't come close. He was able to with two people assisting him.

Take that for what it is worth.

Somewhere tonight, Epstein is celebrating the new year.

you guys do know trump was on epsteins plane once but it went to florida and trump was never on the island. nobody has cited trump at the island but clinton and otehrs have been cited to have went there.

also back in teh early 00s didnt prosecutor com eout and say trump and his legal team gave them all their info and found out he had nothing involved in the shenanigan tey were going after epstein for?

not sayign trump is not guilty or a saint but from all the info i gathered, he wasnt involved in any of the trafficking stuff wrt epstein

Wtf?

I wonder how all those people end up killing themselves jacking off in closets and bathrooms and stuff?