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Originally Posted by Luciom
Maybe, but then how could anyone who self identifies with Marxism or communism in general ever talk?
Replace Marxism with capitalism and you get the same paradox.
The common denominator isn't violence within Marxism, communism, or capitalism. None are inherently violent. The common denominator is sycophants abusing those terms to remove their actual meanings. And you contribute to burning language down when you say stuff like this.
Marxists and Rothbardians alike are pretty vehemently anti-war and anti-state violence. The powers that have been just happened to not be while calling themselves communists and capitalists. Power doesn't define a philosophy. The philosophy does.
I'll gladly get into this if you wanna start a new thread: "Is Marxism inherently violent?" or something like that. And we can have the discussion using actual Marxian philosophy versus playing semantics.
Are there violent Marxists who take utilitarianism to extreme, disgusting levels? Sure, but same can said of corporatists. I'd say that neither truly represent socialism/communism or free markets.
Many wars have been fought brutally and unjustly in the name of Christianity. That doesn't make Chrisitianity evil. Those wars don't invalidate the prince of peace who said to do unto others and such. Those wars are just proof that those weren't real Christians. I'd say the same of communists and capitalists.