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Israel has 2000+ Palestinian hostage/torture victims. With a 99.7% conviction rate and 300+ people being held without seeing a judge or a charge, life is terrible for many Palestinians

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03-25-2024 , 04:21 PM

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Israel don't have any hostages no matter how many times you lie that they do.

Coincidentally what are your thoughts on Bobby Sands?

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03-25-2024 , 04:34 PM

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doesnt seem to require Israel to release their hostages.

and I do wonder how many hostages Hamas has left. I thought it was almost all military. so they should be called POWs.

Nobody besides you calls non active personelle who may have served their 2 years or if obligation not are now civilians military. I think even hamas calls them hostages

And hi all

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03-25-2024 , 04:35 PM

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Is this just a semantic argument where prisoners are not hostages?

It's not semantics

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03-25-2024 , 04:38 PM

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Coincidentally what are your thoughts on Bobby Sands?

What has Bobby Sands got to do with Israel?

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03-25-2024 , 04:39 PM

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Is this just a semantic argument where prisoners are not hostages?

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03-25-2024 , 04:55 PM

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Nobody besides you calls non active personelle who may have served their 2 years or if obligation not are now civilians military. I think even hamas calls them hostages

And hi all

How many are non-active?

Also, what do you call a non-active Hamas member?

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03-25-2024 , 05:06 PM

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How many are non-active?

Also, what do you call a non-active Hamas member?

Lol got ‘em

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03-25-2024 , 05:09 PM

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Israel has 2000+ Palestinian hostage/torture victims. With a 99.7% conviction rate and 300+ people being held without seeing a judge or a charge, life is terrible for many Palestinians

a lot more than 2k. the numbers I have seen are 7500+ arrested in the West Bank since Oct 7. so thats not even counting who was there prior nor all the Gazans that are being tortured in black sites.

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03-25-2024 , 05:19 PM

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How many are non-active?

Also, what do you call a non-active Hamas member?

participation in Hamas isn't mandated by law (afaik).

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03-25-2024 , 05:22 PM

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participation in Hamas isn't mandated by law (afaik).

Nobody gives a ****. He wasn’t asking about that

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03-25-2024 , 05:28 PM

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Nobody gives a ****. He wasn’t asking about that

an ex-conscript isn't an ex-military in the sense of sharing responsibilitt for joining the military or for the bad actions of the military.

anyone who ever participated in Hamas or helped Hamas in any way is, for life, a person who dealt in, or helped, terrorism, which is one of the worst possible things a person can be.

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03-25-2024 , 05:33 PM

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We aren’t talking about that. Stfu

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03-25-2024 , 05:34 PM

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participation in Hamas isn't mandated by law (afaik).

according to western sources young men are conscripted into service and tortured if they refuse. also their families can be harassed and arrested.

no idea if its true! read it in Huff Post...

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03-25-2024 , 05:34 PM

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We aren’t talking about that. Stfu

i am, and you are. victor claims that if Hamas captures an ex-military that's not an hostage, rather a pow.

while he claims Hamas people captured are hostages lol.

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03-25-2024 , 05:34 PM

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according to western sources young men are conscripted into service and tortured if they refuse. also their families can be harassed and arrested.

no idea if its true! read it in Huff Post...

by Hamas?

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03-25-2024 , 05:40 PM

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i am, and you are. victor claims that if Hamas captures an ex-military that's not an hostage, rather a pow.

while he claims Hamas people captured are hostages lol.

no I dont claim any of this.

I literally just asked how many were active military.

and its completely absurd to think that the 10s of thousands in Israeli jails and torture camps are all Hamas.

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03-25-2024 , 05:43 PM

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no I dont claim any of this.

I literally just asked how many were active military.

and its completely absurd to think that the 10s of thousands in Israeli jails and torture camps are all Hamas.

lol torture camps

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03-25-2024 , 05:50 PM

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i am, and you are. victor claims that if Hamas captures an ex-military that's not an hostage, rather a pow.

while he claims Hamas people captured are hostages lol.

Please stop making things up and then trying to arguing against them. You’re gaslighting

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03-25-2024 , 06:33 PM

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Do you think the current dynamic of holding Israel to a higher standard (which I guess involves ridiculing their religion) and holding Palestinians to absolutely no standard is working out well? I would say it is not working out particularly well.

I ridicule all religions pretty equally.

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03-25-2024 , 06:34 PM

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according to western sources young men are conscripted into service and tortured if they refuse. also their families can be harassed and arrested.

no idea if its true! read it in Huff Post...

How is that possible, i heard Israel controled Gaza all these years how can the puppet regime do this?

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03-25-2024 , 06:35 PM

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no I dont claim any of this.

I literally just asked how many were active military.

and its completely absurd to think that the 10s of thousands in Israeli jails and torture camps are all Hamas.

Many are just criminals who may not be hamas